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Old 09-16-2007 | 06:00 PM
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Hello, long time lurker here. Currently in the Honda family, but one day I will own an s2k, dreaming about it since I got a handout at the autoshow. anyhoo...

I was just wondering (wouldnt let me do a poll) the percentage of people who have lost control of the rear end resulting in catastrophy. I read many posts on here about both experienced and unexperienced drivers alike loosing control of the rear end unexpectedly often ending in badly. Now, Im just wondering how many people were driving at the time with less than half a tank of gas and more than half a tank, and whether or not this slight change in weight balance would contribute to such a disaster. cheers!
Old 09-16-2007 | 06:06 PM
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I have never lost the tail end of my s2k with on the public streets. Then again I never push it that far on the streets. Not smart.

I HAVE lost the tail in a private, empty parking lot in snow trying to get a feel for the car and its limits. I found that once you lose the tail, it is very difficult to counter steer and recover, if you are lucky enough to stop the spin at all. (this is compared to my first car: a 1968 camaro)

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Old 09-16-2007 | 06:21 PM
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How could you possibly get a feel for a cars limits while driving in snow? That's like saying you can play basketball because you watched it on TV once.

Of course your car is going to be difficult to counterstear and control again NONE of the tires have grip!
Old 09-16-2007 | 07:03 PM
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Old 09-16-2007 | 07:09 PM
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Gas tank doesn't matter.

It's tires, tires, tires, and tires.

Save up enough to keep yourself in good tread. Money for that is more important than the $100 radiator cap or shiny new wheels.

TIRES!!!!!!!

I had fresh S02s for the Dragon. Drove in pouring rain on some of the twistiest roads in America. It even snowed on the last day. Didn't lose the rear in the least. The only times in the past 5 years where the rear was skittish was when I had less than 1/3 tread.
Old 09-16-2007 | 07:19 PM
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I never break loose. Bridgestone Re's
Old 09-16-2007 | 07:25 PM
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The last time I lost control of my rear it wasn't pretty. I couldn't find a restroom anywhere and had to utilize some bushes.
Old 09-16-2007 | 07:44 PM
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Only time fuel played a part in a spin was on the Dragon...had zero bars showing (basically less than a gallon left)...as soon as I got on the brakes the tail got light and gently came around as I trail broke a bit longer than I should. Bad part is...there is not much room for even a gentle spin on the Dragon and I left half my front bumper on the Tree of Shame. Still drove the car home though.

I've noticed a bit more traction with a full tank when accelerating on corner exit, but nothing to write home about. Braking is where I can feel more of a difference.

I've spun plenty of times in autox situations...and never really noticed that fuel played a part since they were usually power-on spins...just got on the power to quickly.
Old 09-16-2007 | 08:36 PM
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i found a little sand patch as i was making a 90 degree right turn onto the highway around 1 am. i shifted into second and got on the power a little more conservative than normal cause i was eating something from wawa. well once i shifted and got on the gas the rear came out hard i was able to regain control after the car went back and forth a few times. thank god there was noone else on the road at the time
Old 09-16-2007 | 08:52 PM
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rear end has come almost around on me a couple times just driving semi aggressive thru sprinkler water.


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