Loose ass on a straightaway - is my car okay?
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Shoyu Burner
[B]All other things being equal, all things in the northern hemisphere (above the equator) will want to rotate counter-clockwise, and all things in the southern hemisphere will want to rotate clockwise.
[B]All other things being equal, all things in the northern hemisphere (above the equator) will want to rotate counter-clockwise, and all things in the southern hemisphere will want to rotate clockwise.
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man, that reminds me of the time when i totalled my black s2k earlier this year, my scenario, raining the past few days and that day and the road was soaked. was at a stoplight, accelerated to about 60km, no hard gear changes but probably hit the white lane marker, next thing i know the car breaks RIGHT (remember im in australia and we drive on the left side with a rhd car) and boom im up a gutter with the rear taken off from a telegraph pole and the front of the car through a brick fence. i still relive that moment everytime i drive past the guys house and when it rains i have that awful sensation that the car is going to go at any second, so i "drive miss daisy" when it rains and drive hard when its dry. but besides that i drive sensible all the time.
i still dont know what happened that night, but all i know is that rain is no good. everyone, i cant stress this enough, drive sensible
i still dont know what happened that night, but all i know is that rain is no good. everyone, i cant stress this enough, drive sensible
#33
hey Art, you never told me about this?!??! or was it that same story you told me before?? anyhow, damn some of you are harsh, give him a break, he's just asking a question, and suddenly boom all of you jump on him. Keep it friendly
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I don't think you will ever know for sure why it broke right. It could be the slope of the road, differences in road surfacing, tire pressure, drivers weight, steering input, etc. The car will probably tend to drift right due to the driver's weight and road slope, but it could just as easily go left.
As for the LSD, I am not an expert on that but it seems that if both tires loose traction then this feature would not come into play until traction is regained on one or both tires. No idea on how it would effect a slide.
As for the LSD, I am not an expert on that but it seems that if both tires loose traction then this feature would not come into play until traction is regained on one or both tires. No idea on how it would effect a slide.
#35
Originally posted by CoralDoc
As someone with training in oceanography, I couldn't leave this statement alone. You stated rotation direction backwards and the Coriolis effect does not apply to small-scale events like toilets flushing and cars driving down the road in the rain. It applies to objects travelling over long distances like oceanic currents, airplanes and cruise missles.
As someone with training in oceanography, I couldn't leave this statement alone. You stated rotation direction backwards and the Coriolis effect does not apply to small-scale events like toilets flushing and cars driving down the road in the rain. It applies to objects travelling over long distances like oceanic currents, airplanes and cruise missles.
A simple Physics experiment that can be done in your garage will help illustrate the point. Take a bicycle wheel that has been removed from the bicycle. Spin the wheel, while holding the studs in either hand (so that you are looking along the tire tread as it rotates). Now, quickly turn the axis of rotation counterclockwise (push out your right hand and pull in the left). You should feel a downward force on your right hand as you do this, and this is a Coriolis acceleration associated with you moving a rotating object.
Clark
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Thanks for the clarification and refinement of my statement. I was not aware that the term "Coriolis effect" could be used in situations other than involving changes in the Earth's rotation vector with latitude.
Since I was a bicycle mechanic in my youth, I'm well aware of the demonstration that you describe .
Since I was a bicycle mechanic in my youth, I'm well aware of the demonstration that you describe .
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Originally posted by Cedric Tomkinson
I don't think anyone was saying this do you? Come on, if you're going to contribute, do it intelligently. At least DJ kept his cool in his responses and showed a genuine desire to analyse what happened.
I don't think anyone was saying this do you? Come on, if you're going to contribute, do it intelligently. At least DJ kept his cool in his responses and showed a genuine desire to analyse what happened.
Yes, I do think this is what people were saying. I found it to be ridiculous that some members were taking his simple question and analyzing it so seriously rather than just answering him.
I did keep my cool and all I was doing was being humourous and lighthearted for the entertainment of others. Others saw this and laughed; I'm sorry that you chose not to.
Originally posted by Cedric Tomkinson
I wish I was your age and knew as much as you do! Thinking about it though, I probably did!
I wish I was your age and knew as much as you do! Thinking about it though, I probably did!
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Cedric Tomkinson [B]
"Nobody should try it with or without permission."
"the mere fact that you need to ask what caused it shows you fail to realise the inherent dangers in driving any powerful lightweight RWD car in the wet.
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Tom:
I'm not really sure why I'm responding to your post which is as ill-conceived, rude and sarcastic as your first one. I don't think I was rude to DJ, I don't propose to start a poll on it anyway!
I'm sorry if it disappoints, but I really don't feel the need to prove anything to you, least of all how clever I am, which incidentally, I don't claim to be. You don't really have to be very bright to know that driving balls out in the wet in a car like this one is dangerous and unpredictable.
Just think it through.
BTW none of us buy this car to drive like clergymen, but there's a time and a place for it!
Please enjoy your car Tom, but excercise a little discretion!
I'm not really sure why I'm responding to your post which is as ill-conceived, rude and sarcastic as your first one. I don't think I was rude to DJ, I don't propose to start a poll on it anyway!
I'm sorry if it disappoints, but I really don't feel the need to prove anything to you, least of all how clever I am, which incidentally, I don't claim to be. You don't really have to be very bright to know that driving balls out in the wet in a car like this one is dangerous and unpredictable.
Just think it through.
BTW none of us buy this car to drive like clergymen, but there's a time and a place for it!
Please enjoy your car Tom, but excercise a little discretion!
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Originally posted by Clark
A simple Physics experiment that can be done in your garage will help illustrate the point. Take a bicycle wheel that has been removed from the bicycle. Spin the wheel, while holding the studs in either hand (so that you are looking along the tire tread as it rotates). Now, quickly turn the axis of rotation counterclockwise (push out your right hand and pull in the left). You should feel a downward force on your right hand as you do this, and this is a Coriolis acceleration associated with you moving a rotating object.
A simple Physics experiment that can be done in your garage will help illustrate the point. Take a bicycle wheel that has been removed from the bicycle. Spin the wheel, while holding the studs in either hand (so that you are looking along the tire tread as it rotates). Now, quickly turn the axis of rotation counterclockwise (push out your right hand and pull in the left). You should feel a downward force on your right hand as you do this, and this is a Coriolis acceleration associated with you moving a rotating object.
Coraldoc's original post was correct.
Also the post about that force affecting sinks and toilets is purely urban legend. There may be a textbook explanation for why the car pulled right, but that is not it.
I think a more likely explanation is a L-R weight imbalance, or different traction to each of the wheels (oil or bumps on road, alignment of rear wheels, etc). We will never know!