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Originally Posted by rijowysock,Jun 9 2005, 08:04 PM
i was simply saying..
if i have all CASH and i private sell my car for 11 i could go to the main fleet manager/head of dealership and the car would (normally being 22k) would be around 19k
CASH UNDER TABLE with like a small $ on the title
BUT: if i traded in my civic.. i would ask for more... and therefore couldnt negotiate the S price (cause if i give mine to them cheaper... they wont wanna lower price.. because itl be 'them" making more $)
the S would end up costing me 22k (full amount)
now do you understand my math
if i go somewhere with 19k CASH... the main guy would say.. "hey why should i claim this.." put 9900 on title and pocket the rest or w/e.
but if i go somewhere with a car and only 9k cash.. they would say "were gonna rip this guy a new asshole because hes trying to sell us his civic.. lets charge him 22k for car regardless.. therefor id ask for more on my tradein
if i have all CASH and i private sell my car for 11 i could go to the main fleet manager/head of dealership and the car would (normally being 22k) would be around 19k
CASH UNDER TABLE with like a small $ on the title
BUT: if i traded in my civic.. i would ask for more... and therefore couldnt negotiate the S price (cause if i give mine to them cheaper... they wont wanna lower price.. because itl be 'them" making more $)
the S would end up costing me 22k (full amount)
now do you understand my math
if i go somewhere with 19k CASH... the main guy would say.. "hey why should i claim this.." put 9900 on title and pocket the rest or w/e.
but if i go somewhere with a car and only 9k cash.. they would say "were gonna rip this guy a new asshole because hes trying to sell us his civic.. lets charge him 22k for car regardless.. therefor id ask for more on my tradein
The more variables you remove from the deal the more rigid the dealership will be on the prcie of the car. I.E. when you pay cash OTD it is a cut and dry deal. The opposite scenario being someone wanting to trade a used car on a new one and finance the difference. The latter scenario gives the dealership the most profitability.
Your idea of the dealer claiming only a few thousand on the title and pocketing the rest under the table isn't very realistic unless the dealer only paid a few thousand for the car to start with. Most dealerships aren't gonna buy an S for $18k, and then claim to sell it for only $10k...at least not if they are concerned with tax fraud.
To Mooky826...regardless of what actually went down, you did the right thing...you left without succombing to an unfavorable deal. ALWAYS leave a dealership happy...as the customer YOU are in control of what happens.
You will find a sweet deal and get yourself an S! Just be strong and patient!
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Originally Posted by JAXrsx,Jun 9 2005, 11:41 PM
The more variables you remove from the deal the more rigid the dealership will be on the prcie of the car. I.E. when you pay cash OTD it is a cut and dry deal. The opposite scenario being someone wanting to trade a used car on a new one and finance the difference. The latter scenario gives the dealership the most profitability.
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Originally Posted by wj4,Jun 10 2005, 12:54 AM
off topic guys but do u think its possible to get an s2000 for $30,000 out the door? im thinking of buying a new 05 model and trade in my 04 accord for it. thanks a lot