jzz30

here is a yahoo auction for a jdm 05
note that if you look at the specs its written S2000, 2000cc and go a little further down the chassis code is written as ABA-AP1
so what do you have to say about that?
http://page16.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/u16153496

jzz30

maybe the eu still dont have the f22?

jzz30

yea uk still doesnt get the 2.2 try look!
http://www.honda.co.uk/car/

RED MX5

My MY00 NADM VIN is AP114. Here in the US, all cars prior to MY04 were labeled AP1's, and all cars MY04 and later were labeled AP2's, and it seems that this is (in the USA at least) the chassis code, as there are some significant differences. Some of the guys with later model NADM cars need to verify this, but I *think* the codes for the VIN codes for the NADM are simply ...

00-03 = AP1 (and engine code F20C1)

04-07 = AP2 (and engine code F22C1)

If the EUDM VIN pictured above isn't a fraud then in Europe they still got the full AP1 until MY06. It's probably safe to assume that they'll get the AP2 chassis when they get their F22C2, and apparently it's a package deal.

Did Honda ever sell cars with the AP2 chassis code and the F20Cx engine code?

Do all the JDM AP1's (through MY05) all have the same rear sub frame and steering ratio I have in my NADM AP1?

RED MX5

Hey Jzz30, it looks like you're right to me, but as you can see, we're all a little confused.

Why do you suppose Honda kept selling the AP1 chassis and F20Cx engine combination to the rest of the world for so many years? Do the AP1's made in MY04 and later have 17" wheels? If so, how many of the other AP2 upgrades did they get?

jzz30

my ap2 vin is ap214.
the JDM ap1's do not get the same subframes or steering ratios from 00-05 i can get all the specs from revspeed once i get home
and it seems europe still gets ap1's because they still use the f20

RED MX5

[QUOTE=jzz30,Oct 22 2007, 06:22 PM] my ap2 vin is ap214.
the JDM ap1's do not get the same subframes or steering ratios

RED MX5

I wanna hear more from the people who are certian that AP1 production stopped after MY03, and that later cars with the F20Cx are still AP2's if they're MY04 or later.

Ks320

Oh dang. Sorry guys. Didn't realize this turns up to be a big debate!!!

Anyway, regardless of the code, I'm happy as long as the 2004 JDM S2000s have the updated tranny and sub-frame. I'm eyeing on one right now and just wanted to make sure I get those goodies.

I don't mind too much which code it is ... as long as I get the tranny and sub-frame right, since those are a pain in the butt to convert.

Ks320

I find this funny for some reason. Anyway ... that newer suspensions aren't that bad!!! hehehehehe