IV-TEC vs. V-TEC whats the diff?
#1
i-vtec is Honda's answer to Toyota's VVTLi or Variable Valve Lift and Timing.
Original VTEC if I understand correctly, when the RPMS get to a certain level (most Honda's around 5500 to 6000) the valve lifts higher to allow more fuel/air for the combustion.
VVTLi or i-VTEC allows the valve to adjust variable thru out the RPM range supposedly to allow for a stronger, smoother powerband.
Neat in theory, but I think the S2000 has 3 cam profiles, so I think it is just about as good as a variable system as it has a low, mid and high cam. Other VTEC Hondas, I believe only had two cams.
I'm venturing into territory that I am unsure of, so anyone who can confirm, enlighten, please help.
Original VTEC if I understand correctly, when the RPMS get to a certain level (most Honda's around 5500 to 6000) the valve lifts higher to allow more fuel/air for the combustion.
VVTLi or i-VTEC allows the valve to adjust variable thru out the RPM range supposedly to allow for a stronger, smoother powerband.
Neat in theory, but I think the S2000 has 3 cam profiles, so I think it is just about as good as a variable system as it has a low, mid and high cam. Other VTEC Hondas, I believe only had two cams.
I'm venturing into territory that I am unsure of, so anyone who can confirm, enlighten, please help.
#3
So for the I-VTEC, would it mean that it is constantly engaged or does it kick in like VTEC? For VTEC it only engages at a certain RPM. I heard that the ITR's had a different type of system, in which VTEC is engaged twice...is that true? Thanks
#4
I haven't experienced it, but from what it would appear to me, it should feel like a more linear acceleration, not like the on/off feeling from normal VTEC.
If I understand correctly, the Valves will "adjust" thru out the whole RPM range to allow for more air/fuel.
So to answer your question, I believe it is "constantly engaged", as you rev higher, the valves should lift higher.
At least that is how I understand it.
If I understand correctly, the Valves will "adjust" thru out the whole RPM range to allow for more air/fuel.
So to answer your question, I believe it is "constantly engaged", as you rev higher, the valves should lift higher.
At least that is how I understand it.
#7
i-VTEC combines the signature VTEC system with a new technology called VTC or Variable Timing Control. This allows the intake cam phasing to be varied by as much as + or - 50 degrees. The goal of the VTC is to beef up the available torque in the mid-range of the engine. It also allows some underlap to force exhaust gases back into the intake track to function as a EGR system. It also allows for very aggressive timing under WOT conditions. In a RSX Type-S the VTEC part works exactly like our S2000 engine, thought it switches to the high lift cams a bit earlier. The difference is the intake cam is continuously adjusting on the fly to meet different emissions, and performance requirements.
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#8
I have power/torque curves of both the S2000 (2.0L VTEC) and the RSX Type S(2.0L i-VTEC)from Honda. The first is from the SAE paper, the second from Ward's engine issue (I assume the curve was from Honda). Both are a bit cartoonish, but if I overlay the points, the curves look very similar. That is, until the RSX's peters out at upper rpm. Basically, the RSX has about 2-3 more lb-ft from 3000-5000 rpm. 2% is not a significant difference. Above 5500 rpm, the S2000 dominates. My read is that even if the S2000 added i-VTEC, you'd probably see little discernable effect.
#9
Originally posted by Shadow_S2K
I heard that the ITR's had a different type of system, in which VTEC is engaged twice...is that true? Thanks
I heard that the ITR's had a different type of system, in which VTEC is engaged twice...is that true? Thanks