Hypothetically...how could you get more torque out of an F20C?
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Hypothetically...how could you get more torque out of an F20C?
That is an not loose any horsepower or revs. I am very happy with the horsepower the car has...allthough I wouldn't complain about 10 more... However, I think 200 ft/lbs of torque would kick a$$.
So therin lies the question for all the engine experts. Would you have to bore out the pistons...would lower compression and a supercharger do it...any ideas...???
So therin lies the question for all the engine experts. Would you have to bore out the pistons...would lower compression and a supercharger do it...any ideas...???
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As far as I know, the only person to get 200 lb/ft of torque out of an F20C is me and that was done with a turbo and 8 psi. You could do it with nitrous without too much trouble as well.
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2 ways: Increase capacity (which would no longer make it a 2.0l engine), add a turbo/supercharger, or more simply, alter the gearing ratios. Ultimately engine torque isn't all that important when you use proper gearing. Heck, even a wooden waterwheel, if geared correctly, could generate more torque than a Corvette Of course, it would take an hour or more to complete one revolution, while that same corvette could generate the same torque while spinning at several thousand times a second <G>
I remember reading somewhere that you can get a replacement gear to alter your final gear ratio. This lowers the top speed of each gear, but you get more torque in each gear as a result. However, frankly, this is no different than simply downshifting to a lower gear. In fact, if you altered the final gear ratio enough, you could effectively shift each gear by one number!
But if you're looking for a car that will have very strong pull at slow speeds and low RPMs, the S2000 is the wrong car for you. Ultimately, beyond a certain point, you have to increase the air consumed at the lower RPM to increase "torque". And that means either more capacity (look at an American muscle car for an example of this), or higher intake pressure (read: turbo or supercharger). The S2000 gives you lots of power at a small capacity, and the resulting lighter weight that allows. 240hp is still 240hp
I remember reading somewhere that you can get a replacement gear to alter your final gear ratio. This lowers the top speed of each gear, but you get more torque in each gear as a result. However, frankly, this is no different than simply downshifting to a lower gear. In fact, if you altered the final gear ratio enough, you could effectively shift each gear by one number!
But if you're looking for a car that will have very strong pull at slow speeds and low RPMs, the S2000 is the wrong car for you. Ultimately, beyond a certain point, you have to increase the air consumed at the lower RPM to increase "torque". And that means either more capacity (look at an American muscle car for an example of this), or higher intake pressure (read: turbo or supercharger). The S2000 gives you lots of power at a small capacity, and the resulting lighter weight that allows. 240hp is still 240hp
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More cubes would help as has been noted. Gears would help a bit too.
Another idea I'd like to see is more aggressive cams on the prevtec lobes. That way you could have a stronger 4-6000 RPM, a more gentle trasition to vtec. Easier to drive in the wet. BUT a tiny bit less oompth below 2500-3000 and probably more emissions. One of the American cam companies does this for another Honda engine. The big lobes are a bit hairier but not very much..most of the change is on the small lobes. This would feel like vtec kicked in earlier and reduce the accel penalty of being in the wrong gear. I saw a dyno plot in a recent tuner mag and you can barrely see the vtec transition...it's not that VTEC is weaker, it's that prevtec is stronger.
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Another idea I'd like to see is more aggressive cams on the prevtec lobes. That way you could have a stronger 4-6000 RPM, a more gentle trasition to vtec. Easier to drive in the wet. BUT a tiny bit less oompth below 2500-3000 and probably more emissions. One of the American cam companies does this for another Honda engine. The big lobes are a bit hairier but not very much..most of the change is on the small lobes. This would feel like vtec kicked in earlier and reduce the accel penalty of being in the wrong gear. I saw a dyno plot in a recent tuner mag and you can barrely see the vtec transition...it's not that VTEC is weaker, it's that prevtec is stronger.
Stan
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