Best way to cure oversteer is to understand how to control it first...Take a Driving School

 

k i know what oversteer is and i have taken a driving school. i went with tein s tech stock shocks. fresh alignment with a little more aggresive camber in the front to keep a good contact patch while cornering. i know everyones suggestion is to learn to drive. all i want to do is balance the chassis at the limits!! i appreciate all info!

 

Damn dude, you need some fundamental schooling on car set up. Now that you've got the pimp ass looks, your car handles like a turd. Hmmm.

What are your alignment settings? This is crucial to understanding your problems. You say you added negative camber to the front but you didn't mention the rear. If you added front camber but didn't change the rear to match then there's a good probability that is your problem. Adding negative camber makes the outside tire stick better to an extent. Sounds like the rear needs camber too.

If the spring rates on those shocks are proportionally the same as stock, an alignment should fix it up. If they are not, then you should play with alignment to dial in what you need.

What have you done with your wheels? Are they stock? Have you changed the tire sizes from stock? What tires are you running?

PS. It helps to give all important info up front so we don't waste our time answering you and you don't get useless answers.

Matt

 

"nope i can go into a corner no acelleration and no brakes and the rear end will step out. It only started to do that after the lowering springs though"

I think advanced driving school is what you need

About your statement... as you go into a turn, most of the time the weight is at the front of the car -- especially the front outside wheel. The rear is much lighter than the front so it's easier for the rear to slide.

If you brake in the middle of the turn, more weight would be transfered to the front which will make the situation worse. What you want to do is to brake or slow down BEFORE you enter the corner while you are still in a straight line. As you enter the turn, ease on the gas. That will shift the weight towards the read of the car. So you have a better weight distribution during cornering. Just don't punch the gas in the middle of the turn, you will spin out.

You will guage how much power the car can handle without spinning out as you practice cornering.

We buy the S for fun. So there is no reason to drive like an old lady around the corners. Just take some adjustment and practice to carve the twisties.

You can also have your rear wheel aligned with a bit of negative camber -- you know looking from behind, the rear wheels slant more like an A rather than V shape That will give you a better contact patch at the corner

Drive safely!

 

If you are running on S02 tires, make sure the rears are not really worn. They slip out easily if worn, more so in the wet.

Try getting a wheel alignment to UK specs. It is cheap and easy, and if it settles the car down enough, you may not feel you need to spend additional money.

 

UK alignment here. Helped alot!!!

Also check tire pressures.

 

the rear end on my 05 feels a LOT more stable than my 01 was

kinda sucks a lil because its harder to spin the tail around but its a lot safer for most drivers

 

 

Very true, the 04-05's handle much easier and nicer then the pre-04/05's. The modifications to the chasis and suspension mods really helped improve the handling. Although I disagree that it's harder to let the rear slide. Just apply a little more braking just before you begin your turn, and the rear begins to slide out nice and easy.

 

so would getting aftermarket bigger swaybars in the front and back make things worse? or help a little?