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Old 03-15-2006, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by formulaofsuccess,Mar 15 2006, 12:44 PM
an individual is claiming that in high rpm downshifts most all hondas he's ever owned have necessitated double clutching
I see two possibilities.

1) All the Hondas he's ever owned were clapped out and had defective transmissions.

2) The guy can't drive.

Can anyone else think of any other possibilities?
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Originally Posted by RED MX5,Mar 15 2006, 06:35 PM
I see two possibilities.

1) All the Hondas he's ever owned were clapped out and had defective transmissions.

2) The guy can't drive.

Can anyone else think of any other possibilities?
Maybe he's running at high rpm in that gear before he downshifts, which means that his car is protecting him from his own stupidity (mechanical over-rev).
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honda's aren't notorious for clanky shifts.
Old 03-15-2006, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by xviper,Mar 15 2006, 09:14 PM
Maybe he's running at high rpm in that gear before he downshifts, which means that his car is protecting him from his own stupidity (mechanical over-rev).
That would be #2.
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I regularly double clutch when downshifting at speed, i.e. slowing for a stop or downshifting for a turn while driving fast, and have always had very smooth results - including into first gear.
When I had my Alfa Romeo Spider ('74) I used to practice clutchless shifting by matching revs. Wasn't hard at all. I haven't tried that on my S2, and have not intentions of doing so :-)
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[QUOTE=svatne,Mar 15 2006, 11:01 PM]I regularly double clutch when downshifting at speed, i.e. slowing for a stop or downshifting for a turn while driving fast, and have always had very smooth results - including into first gear.
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double clutching does nothing for modern cars that have synchros.
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Originally Posted by Wisconsin S2k,Mar 16 2006, 08:15 AM
double clutching does nothing for modern cars that have synchros.
We must also consider the distinct possibility that those who say they do on a routine basis, may not actually know what "double clutching" really is. They may simply think that's what they're doing but in reality, aren't.
We hear so often from some guys that once they got "double clutching" down, it doesn't take any more time than not double clutching. Well, this is impossible. A double clutch involves at least 2 additional SETS of motions. This WILL take more time than if you didn't have those motions. You can't defy the time/space continuum.
Oh, and if you don't really know what "double clutching" is, I'm not going to detail it here. This has been done dozens of times on this forum. I'm sure you can find out at "HowStuffWorks".

And another Oh! I've gone with someone who claimed he was always double clutching and observed. I couldn't help from laughing my ass off and keeping a straight face when I told him ....................... Um, not even close!
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Originally Posted by xviper,Mar 16 2006, 09:30 AM

And another Oh! I've gone with someone who claimed he was always double clutching and observed. I couldn't help from laughing my ass off and keeping a straight face when I told him ....................... Um, not even close!
im convinced that a good 90% of people who claim to know this stuff are actually very ignorant about it, so i pretty much stay away from arguments about its mechanics
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Originally Posted by xviper,Mar 16 2006, 09:30 AM
And another Oh! I've gone with someone who claimed he was always double clutching and observed. I couldn't help from laughing my ass off and keeping a straight face when I told him ....................... Um, not even close!
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