I'm always left nonplused by the internet lexicon. How much more effort is it
to type "probably?"

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ElTianti
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I'm always left nonplused by the internet lexicon.

 

Not the future value of the 1st year in excellent shape!

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I was kinda hoping there would be no change and they would stop making it after 04.

My guess is '03 will be it....but of course it's only a guess.

 

Or you could say it like this:
By 2005 ALMOST all Honda motors (that means Acura too!) will be i-VTEC.

I still think it's more likely the Honda S2000 will eventually be discontinued only to come back a year or two later as an Acura (and with a new name), and that's when the displacement will be increased.

 

He, he................. I added "Almost" to just protect myself. Have you read the whole article? Here is what's in the article:"By 2005, Honda aims to have all of their engines replaced by the "i-Series" engines." Not sure what "aims" stands for, so, just to protect myself giving out false info; I added "almost" to my thread. But "Most" of the time, My guess is correct! We just have to wait and see. It only makes sense to add the additional cam angle advance for the Med-range power! It's a better (additional) "intelligent" system, but a bit more complicated, which means more parts to break! He, he......................

Question! Why should Honda produce just 4 years run when they can make more money? "Limited" is already out of the equation, since it's really never limited! What's the count on the S2000 units sold now? Probably already reached over 45,000 units! he, he..........Like I said, the NSX is still under 20,000 units in over 10 year run! Plus they just redesigned and added the rear window for the S2000 top! It's going to be like the Miata, continue run and added minor modification to the car; until they make enough profit for the R&D and maybe until another new model comes along. Trust me! Just get the car (S2000) that you want now and hope for the best (New improve model in the near future!) Have fun! (There will be NEW and BETTER car every NEW year! Because the technology is ALWAYS improving! And the car manufacturers need to make the newer car every so often to make more money!)

 

Question: Why did Honda quit manufacturing the Prelude, when they made alot of $$$ here too? It costs Honda next to nothing to put a glass window in the 2002 as an improvement, so this sure isn't going to dictate any future production of the car. Fact: The S2K and NSX are built in the same factory, and a new and improved NSX is on the drawing board....... so bumping little brother aside for a few years, or for good, is a possibility. The S2K was built to commemorate Honda's 50th Anniversary, and maybe a short production run was all that was intended...... The bottom line is that none of us on the outside has a clue whether it stays or goes..... Now, if someone on the inside w/Honda speaks of it's life span, then that's something I would listen to..... 'kinda like E.F.Hutton. 'Nuff said

 

It seems like one way for Honda to bump up power just a bit would be to raise the redline on the motor to 9500 or 10000 rpms and switch to iVTEC as well. That way they wouldn't need to redesign the block, just tweak the valve train and maybe pistons, etc, right? Maybe they could even do this for a Type R version and continue selling the current S2000 as the base model car? Probably not, since it wouldn't make sense to have too many versions of such a low production car (S2000, VGS, Type R, an assortment of colors, etc).

Of course, I don't want to believe they'd bump up power this way since that might give the car even more of that somewhat negative, high strung image that a lot of non-owners have of it. Much better to see a slight displacement increase or just plain iVTEC by itself if it would give us a little increase without too much trouble.

My final speculations, I would bet that we won't see a new S2000 until after the new NSX comes out. It seems like Honda would want their top people involved in both of those projects and wouldn't want to spread themselves too thin or tie up too much money in R&D by working on both at once. Easier to finish up the new NSX and then do a redesign of the S2000. But that's IMHO of course.

 

I don't believe that Honda will only make this car 4 years, but I would expect the S2000 might be the lone expection to the all i-VTEC by 2005. Based on sales figures, I believe Honda has sold less than 30,000 units in the US so far. This car is limited in respected that it's built only at one location that has a relatively low production rate.

I don't completely agree. I see where Mazda sold over 14,000 Miatas (in the US) in 1997. I really don't believe Honda's Takanezawa plant (in Tochigi, Japan) can handle making that many cars for the US market.

I already did!

Yes indeed...

 

Radster,
Honda stop producing the Prelude is because the sale is going down hill. Check the Honda sale records and you will see! Last two years, Honda dealers are trying to sell the Prelude way less than the MSRP! (My friend got an 2000 for $5000 under MSRP two years ago!) During that time the Acura Integra Type-R has just about the same Hp, much lighter car than Prelude and bit faster car! And just about the same price! The last Gen Prelude H22A motor was heavy, and at 200 Hp! ITR was right at 195 Hp! And rev happy! Plus ITR gets a better and longer warranty!

Do you really think the rear glass window was simple design for Honda? You think Honda just picked a glass some where and slapped into the top? I heard the frame of the 02' are different than the 00'-01'? I know for fact that the two front latches for the top are different! Tooling cost money! I have the Service Manuel for the S2000 (model years from 00'-02', the convertible top have many different components in it!)

STL,
The production #'s are Total sold from the plant! Which means world wide! Yes! The NSX is still under 20,000 units for over 11 years! (Worls Wide) Possiblly even still under 15,000 Units; (I just haven't checked lately!

Anyway, You guys "might be right" about stop S2000 production for a while (few years) because of the new NSX?? But there will be S2000 or improved S2000 after 2003 for sure! Which means that Honda will built S2000 as long as they will make money! (Kind of like the Civic Si and ITR, they stopped for a while and then reappears!)

And about the Miata; I'm not compare production units per units each year between the Miata and the S2000! I'm just saying:" When they first introduced Miata to the US; they said it will be a limited production" (kind of implied that they well stop in just few years), But they are still selling the Miata very strong! And I'm saying the same thing here for the S2000! They will still sell it as long as people will buy it! I didn't say it will continue MASS production to meet Miata's #'s.

I'm speaking to all (the one that's waiting) to get a S2000 now!(and NEVER pay more than MSRP! because CARS only depreciate value!) Better car comes out each "NEW" year, and I think you agree with me on that? Just enjoy what you can get now! Worry about "it" later when it comes.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Radster
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