High speed confidence
#22
Honestly, I just traded in my 2011 335is for the s2000, and I couldn't be more happy. I have skunk2 coils and Lm's on the S and the steering and handling is so much more responsive than the beemer. I loved the BMW, but the s2000 is a true sports car where the BMW was a luxury with sport modifications. The only thing I miss is the raw acceleration/torque from the beemer. My 0-60 times were in the mid 4's, but the S is plenty fast enough for me (right now anyways )
#24
Went from whatever crap all-season "summer" tires were on the car at the time of purchase (forget which brand/model), to Star Specs, to now using BFG G-Force Rivals. The Star Specs and Rivals are both infinitely better than the all-seasons.
Tires are the most important handling mod on any car, ever.
#25
You mean like a hammer upside down from your initial analogy? Sounds easier to balance.
Maybe a better analogy is a long pole like a trapieze artist uses. Very stable. Now imagine he is using a similar weight bowling ball instead. He's gonna fall off the rope. Now imagine trying to bob and weave like a football player carrying either pole or ball. Pole stable, ball easier to turn.
I thought swept fighter wings were to reduce drag, not improve agility. The F14 has wings that can sweep forward or back. Back for speed, forward for dog fighting.
Maybe a better analogy is a long pole like a trapieze artist uses. Very stable. Now imagine he is using a similar weight bowling ball instead. He's gonna fall off the rope. Now imagine trying to bob and weave like a football player carrying either pole or ball. Pole stable, ball easier to turn.
I thought swept fighter wings were to reduce drag, not improve agility. The F14 has wings that can sweep forward or back. Back for speed, forward for dog fighting.
Good analogy, Analogy.
Swept wings move the center of lift, cut drag, support the "area rule" (used to be called the Coke bottle rule), make for a stronger wing, and allow for better flight response, among other things. The F14 actually had swept wings forward for landing on the ship not for air combat maneuvering (ACM). If the wings were forward in a fight it meant it was a slow speed fight and the turkey was already a "grape" . The F14 (we called it a turkey) actually used up a ton of energy in a hard turn. All airplanes do that but some are more efficient than others. The point is with the S as well as a fighter, you don't want the platform to naturally counteract desired inputs. If you are a little twitchy with the BMW, not too much happens. Be a little jerky with the S and see what happens.
#27
What do you do with the car? Get some tires, and a UK alignment and you'll love it. I run Yokohama S. Drives 225/45/17 front and 255/40/17 rear. I use Hankook RS-3's in the same sizes for the track. The car feels great on both sets. Confident and predictable.
I'm almost scared by the confidence the car gives me, both on the street and the track.
I'm almost scared by the confidence the car gives me, both on the street and the track.
#28
I think BMW are much more planted than a s2000 as well. I now have a e46 m3 and it's a lot easier to drive at the limit than the s2000. It's just a characteristic of the s2000.
I also had a c5 z06 and the rear is always hopping around- or at least felt like it.
I also had a c5 z06 and the rear is always hopping around- or at least felt like it.
#29
I hit a kangaroo with the S, just the other day.
Fortunately I was not the first, or probably even among the first few, but they are not little things, even when dead.
The thing was hidden in front of a truck I was about to overtake. I did not even see it, until after the huge thump from the right front suspension.
Why do I post this here? The thing is now darting all over the road. The slightest bump or wave in the road has it diving left or right, anywhere but straight. The slightest movement of the steering wheel gives about 5 times the normal response.
All this was found in the 15 kilometers home, then the 20 kilometers to a mates workshop. On his hoist I can find no damage, but by eye it appears to be toeing out more than a little.
I have it booked in for a wheel alignment next week, & expect to have my lovely handling S2k back after that.
I suggest a wheel alignment might cure this posters car as well.
Fortunately I was not the first, or probably even among the first few, but they are not little things, even when dead.
The thing was hidden in front of a truck I was about to overtake. I did not even see it, until after the huge thump from the right front suspension.
Why do I post this here? The thing is now darting all over the road. The slightest bump or wave in the road has it diving left or right, anywhere but straight. The slightest movement of the steering wheel gives about 5 times the normal response.
All this was found in the 15 kilometers home, then the 20 kilometers to a mates workshop. On his hoist I can find no damage, but by eye it appears to be toeing out more than a little.
I have it booked in for a wheel alignment next week, & expect to have my lovely handling S2k back after that.
I suggest a wheel alignment might cure this posters car as well.
#30
^^Agree. Especially in the US. The UK alignment specs on my car made it feel much more stable, not that it was unstable before. UK specs make it feel like it has better turn-in, and the rear feel more planted.
I've never driven a BMW other than my brother's E46 M3 (but not on a track), so I can't really compare.
If you aren't the track type, and feel that your S2000 is unstable, I highly recommend UK alignment, and good tires. Outside that, maybe spend a day on the track with an instructor. In a safe environment, you will be able to push the car to its limits and beyond, and see that it really isn't that scary.
I've never driven a BMW other than my brother's E46 M3 (but not on a track), so I can't really compare.
If you aren't the track type, and feel that your S2000 is unstable, I highly recommend UK alignment, and good tires. Outside that, maybe spend a day on the track with an instructor. In a safe environment, you will be able to push the car to its limits and beyond, and see that it really isn't that scary.