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Old 09-25-2008 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Saki GT,Sep 25 2008, 06:15 AM
No, provided you do it right.

Try reading this - http://www.standardshift.com/faq.html

The most important thing for you to do is be smooth. When you get on and off the gas you shift the car's weight, and in an S2000, that can be dangerous if done wrong.

Also, practice shifting using just your fingertips on the shifter. This will give you a feel for how little pressure and speed you need to shift. The last thing you want to do is ham fist a shift from 3 to 2 when you're aiming for 4.
link isn't working right now but thanks for the help
Old 09-25-2008 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by mlc,Sep 24 2008, 04:37 PM
You want to learn how to rev-match and heel-toe the car. As has been said there is no need to double clutch a modern transmission. Check out this video. Look at his foot-work. And he is in Leather boots and white socks. Obviously he is pushing the car to the limit. I think this is one of the best videos of the car (prototype) just like mine the orginal.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...25404894830688

Enjoy.

Also do a search on rev matching and heel-toeing.

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I love this video. Anyone know what the two buttons are behind the cup holder?
Old 09-25-2008 | 10:55 AM
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I saw it mentioned earlier, but don't worry about heel-toeing at this point. Over the last 4-5 years I can probably count on one hand the number of times I've felt compelled to heel-toe on the street and every one of those times I was doing something kind of stupid.

Just take it easy for now, spend time getting a feel for the clutch engagement. Once you really have a feel for the clutch everything else will fall into place. Just take it easy until you develop the proper muscle memory for the clutch application to just become a reflex. Once your left leg knows what it is doing you can start playing around with the other stuff.

Pay attention to the advice about how to make sure you hit 4th rather than 2nd when trying to upshift from 3rd (fingertips or backhand). If you **** up on that shift while pushing the car you are going to have a very bad day.
Old 09-25-2008 | 02:43 PM
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Sorry to ask, What's double clutch? Thank You
Old 09-25-2008 | 05:53 PM
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Thanks dudes. Good information and links.

I'm not worried about clutch failure. The only scenario where I'm putting a bit of extra wear on it is when I downshift and the RPM isn't in sync with the drivetrain which requires some clutch slippage. Otherwise, I drive conservatively since it's new to me and I attempt to allow for as little slip as possible during take-offs, gear changes, etc.

I am worried about the mis-shift, but I follow the hand cupping recommendations for the various gears and remember to focus when shifting from 3 to 4 when accelerating quickly.

Tried single-clutching today which makes it much easier to nail the downshifts smoothly.


edit: acurazine article is perfect. He does rec'd a slight double-clutching technique to get the drivetrain moving at the same speed.
Old 09-25-2008 | 11:55 PM
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i learned how to drive stick with my s2k lol mom taught me and i learned pretty quickly only 2 days and i got the hang of it
Old 09-26-2008 | 05:47 AM
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i just find it annoying when noobs clutch in when they're slowing down and just use the brakes to slow down...thats just unnecessary wear on the brakes.

just slow down with the car in gear and right before u come to a complete stop put the car in neutral.
Old 09-26-2008 | 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by ThuG LyFe,Sep 26 2008, 05:47 AM
i just find it annoying when noobs clutch in when they're slowing down and just use the brakes to slow down...thats just unnecessary wear on the brakes.

just slow down with the car in gear and right before u come to a complete stop put the car in neutral.
Why keep the rpms high and put a reverse load on the transmission if you know you are going to come to a complete stop? I just shift to neutral and coast/gently brake as the engine just idles. Brake pads/rotors are a cheap 30 minute fix when they are worn.

If you are just slowing down in traffic, I agree because I like to be able to get back on the throttle quickly.

Worth noting that brake lights are a useful warning to other drivers that you are slowing down. Just downshifting does not provide that warning.
Old 09-26-2008 | 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by amik,Sep 26 2008, 08:55 AM
Why keep the rpms high and put a reverse load on the transmission if you know you are going to come to a complete stop? I just shift to neutral and coast/gently brake as the engine just idles. Brake pads/rotors are a cheap 30 minute fix when they are worn.

If you are just slowing down in traffic, I agree because I like to be able to get back on the throttle quickly.

Worth noting that brake lights are a useful warning to other drivers that you are slowing down. Just downshifting does not provide that warning.
coasting in neutral uses more gas and slows you down at a decreased rate, so you use both more gas and put more wear on your brakes by doing it that way. to each his own.

and i can't speak for other people but i always at least tap my brakes a few times when i left off the gas so other drivers don't rear end me, whether or not i'm downshifting.
Old 09-26-2008 | 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by amik,Sep 26 2008, 03:55 AM
Why keep the rpms high and put a reverse load on the transmission if you know you are going to come to a complete stop? I just shift to neutral and coast/gently brake as the engine just idles. Brake pads/rotors are a cheap 30 minute fix when they are worn.

If you are just slowing down in traffic, I agree because I like to be able to get back on the throttle quickly.

Worth noting that brake lights are a useful warning to other drivers that you are slowing down. Just downshifting does not provide that warning.
like they guy after you said, coasting in neutral is less effective at braking, uses more gas, and wears out the brakes quicker. engine braking is a key point to driving a manual transmission.


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