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08-24-2005, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by jasonw,Aug 24 2005, 10:48 AM
You continue to miss the point. The greater peak instantaneous acceleration is irrelevant.
nowhere, in this entire equation to calculate acceleration, do you use horsepower.
08-24-2005, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Wisconsin S2k,Aug 24 2005, 09:51 AM
yes and I stand corrected after seeing crazyphud's graph.
[QUOTE=Wisconsin S2k,Aug 24 2005, 09:51 AM]and yes, overall.
08-24-2005, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Wisconsin S2k,Aug 24 2005, 09:59 AM
no it's not. geez. you can calculate a car's distance traveled after so many seconds using acceleration, since the "a" represents distance traveled per second squared. (a is usually feet per second squared) you can use that to graph the total distance traveled after so many seconds, using the graph crazyphud provided. the distance traveled per second squared changes constantly with the force being applied.
nowhere, in this entire equation to calculate acceleration, do you use horsepower.
nowhere, in this entire equation to calculate acceleration, do you use horsepower.
08-24-2005, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by jasonw,Aug 24 2005, 11:04 AM
Now this kind of talk really makes me doubt that you know what an integral is. You have to calculate the area between the 2 curves to see who has the advantage. There are plenty of intervals where the stock car has a larger area.
Now you aren't even being consistent within the same post.
Now you aren't even being consistent within the same post.
and for the 2nd part. hence the reason I added
"it applies to 1/4 mile and all speed ranges for a roll (in the real world) starting below 105mph."
in other words, you're nit picking about specific ranges such as 56-65mph or 80-90mph, where in the real world, a race where you only race those specific starting and stopping speeds is unrealistic.
08-24-2005, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by jasonw,Aug 24 2005, 11:05 AM
Maybe you are focusing on peak(or instantaneous) acceleration because you think it's constant...???
here. read about acceleration and velocity.
http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/0,...i529957,00.html
http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/0,...i755044,00.html
acceleration and velocity go hand in hand. use velocity to determine how much distance has been traveled after so many seconds, and you will see the total distance traveled between the two cars after any number of seconds. it can be graphed out, just as crazyphud did. and nowhere, does this use horsepower. it all starts with F=ma. velocity can take into account the fact that acceleration is not constant.
http://www.physicsclassroom.com/Class/1DKin/U1L1e.html
as seen here, this is learned in high school physics classes.
08-24-2005, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Wisconsin S2k,Aug 24 2005, 10:13 AM
no it's not.
here. read about acceleration and velocity.
http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/0,...i529957,00.html
http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/0,...i755044,00.html
acceleration and velocity go hand in hand. use velocity to determine how much distance has been traveled after so many seconds, and you will see the total distance traveled between the two cars after any number of seconds. it can be graphed out, just as crazyphud did. and nowhere, does this use horsepower. it all starts with F=ma. velocity can take into account the fact that acceleration is not constant.
http://www.physicsclassroom.com/Class/1DKin/U1L1e.html
as seen here, this is learned in high school physics classes.
here. read about acceleration and velocity.
http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/0,...i529957,00.html
http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/0,...i755044,00.html
acceleration and velocity go hand in hand. use velocity to determine how much distance has been traveled after so many seconds, and you will see the total distance traveled between the two cars after any number of seconds. it can be graphed out, just as crazyphud did. and nowhere, does this use horsepower. it all starts with F=ma. velocity can take into account the fact that acceleration is not constant.
http://www.physicsclassroom.com/Class/1DKin/U1L1e.html
as seen here, this is learned in high school physics classes.
08-24-2005, 09:29 AM
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Ok i've cited examples, given you websites that explain it in detail, and you continue to say "well you're wrong".
Ok. then educate me. tell me how you use horsepower to determine acceleration. tell me how you use horsepower to determine the distance a car has traveled after a given number of seconds.
i've given you the equations for both, and used examples citing acceleration, velocity, and time, and all you've done is sit here and go "well you're wrong". this is all just physics. nowhere in any of these physics equations do you use horsepower. but you claim different.
so, teach me, and show me where I'm wrong.
Ok. then educate me. tell me how you use horsepower to determine acceleration. tell me how you use horsepower to determine the distance a car has traveled after a given number of seconds.
i've given you the equations for both, and used examples citing acceleration, velocity, and time, and all you've done is sit here and go "well you're wrong". this is all just physics. nowhere in any of these physics equations do you use horsepower. but you claim different.
so, teach me, and show me where I'm wrong.
08-24-2005, 09:33 AM
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[QUOTE=Wisconsin S2k,Aug 24 2005, 10:29 AM]Ok i've cited examples, given you websites that explain it in detail, and you continue to say "well you're wrong".
Ok.
Ok.