which front sway bar would you recommend?
#31
^^^Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that sway bars were made specifically to flatten you out in the corner so your car doesn't roll. In that case it should be that your sway bars aren't working correctly, or else you're taking the corner incredibly fast... Right?
#34
OK, first I'll calm down. 1, 2 ,3 ,4 ,5,.... shew. OK>
A sway bar is a tuning tool. A car is like a musical instrument. All the strings have to be in tune before you can play a song. Sure, you can still play an out of tune guitar but it sounds like feces.
The first step is to know what your car is doing. Does it push at entry, steady state, or corner exit? Or does it oversteer at any of these corner phases? If you can't tell what your car is doing, then stop, put away your wallet and focus the act of driving before modification.
Once you have established what the car is doing, there are several different ways to remedy the problem. Now if the car is already balanced, which it probably is if it's stock, but you want less body roll, then you must change things so that the car stays in tune . For example, if you add a bigger front bar then you have to increase the width of your tires in the front to compensate for the new steady state bias.
I've had the comptech for over three years and it worked flawlessly. It was highly adjustable which was great for the testing of different tire sizes. If the bar was more typical in design this would have not been possible. FWIW...YMMV... blah blah blah.
You can't just throw parts on your car and hope it some how magically comes together. If you want to mod for modding's sake, the suspension is probably the worst place to start if you don't know what you are doing.
Hope this helps.
-Matt
A sway bar is a tuning tool. A car is like a musical instrument. All the strings have to be in tune before you can play a song. Sure, you can still play an out of tune guitar but it sounds like feces.
The first step is to know what your car is doing. Does it push at entry, steady state, or corner exit? Or does it oversteer at any of these corner phases? If you can't tell what your car is doing, then stop, put away your wallet and focus the act of driving before modification.
Once you have established what the car is doing, there are several different ways to remedy the problem. Now if the car is already balanced, which it probably is if it's stock, but you want less body roll, then you must change things so that the car stays in tune . For example, if you add a bigger front bar then you have to increase the width of your tires in the front to compensate for the new steady state bias.
I've had the comptech for over three years and it worked flawlessly. It was highly adjustable which was great for the testing of different tire sizes. If the bar was more typical in design this would have not been possible. FWIW...YMMV... blah blah blah.
You can't just throw parts on your car and hope it some how magically comes together. If you want to mod for modding's sake, the suspension is probably the worst place to start if you don't know what you are doing.
Hope this helps.
-Matt
#35
Originally Posted by glagola1,Jan 2 2007, 02:34 PM
You can't just throw parts on your car and hope it some how magically comes together. If you want to mod for modding's sake, the suspension is probably the worst place to start if you don't know what you are doing.
Change one thing at a time and fully understand what effect it has before making another change!
#36
I feel the stock suspension is fine for the street and mild driving.....but when pushed hard on the track even with street tires still on....the spring rate just bottoms too easily and lifts both inside tires.....the sway bars don't correct that problem......the steering tightened up dramatically with the sway bar combo i have.....as the car is now more responsive to input......but the stock suspension under hard driving still has that feeling like your in a rocking boat.....going back and forth.....from Apex to Apex.....it just won't cut it for me.....and i have not talked to anyone that has cheap coilovers for the s2k and is happy with them at the track....so i am giving the TEIN SRC's w/dual EDFC's a try and i think i will like them...LATER, BILL
#37
Originally Posted by bc02,Jan 2 2007, 01:14 PM
I feel the stock suspension is fine for the street and mild driving.....but when pushed hard on the track even with street tires still on....the spring rate just bottoms too easily and lifts both inside tires.....the sway bars don't correct that problem......the steering tightened up dramatically with the sway bar combo i have.....as the car is now more responsive to input......but the stock suspension under hard driving still has that feeling like your in a rocking boat.....going back and forth.....from Apex to Apex.....it just won't cut it for me.....and i have not talked to anyone that has cheap coilovers for the s2k and is happy with them at the track....so i am giving the TEIN SRC's w/dual EDFC's a try and i think i will like them...LATER, BILL
#38
Higher-level Teins like the SRCs I have heard are extremely good shocks, but the lower-level ones are abysmal. I've heard that KW is under new management now and their company has become a little scatterbrained since the change, which is too bad cuz they make excellent suspensions. The Tein SRCs definatley have a high enough spring rate for any kind of racing you would like to do, and I'm sure that if you know what you're doing with them you'll fly -- good luck bro!
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