[QUOTE]Originally posted by Strike
[B]P.S. - I've been around since the beginning and don't remember ever seeing a thread stating that the life expectancy of the engine is "barely 100k".

 

Has anyone even gotten 100k miles on their car yet?

 

It sounds like you will worry yourself to death over "issues" rather than enjoy any car you buy. To bad.

 

100 engine failures would mean that 0.25% of all S2000's (assume roughly 40,000 have rolled out of the factory) have had this problem. Thats a pretty small number if you ask me.

Go look at the E46 M3 to see how many of those had engine failures. Our engine failures are nothing compared to that.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by cdelena
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I contributed to a thread speculating that the average life of this engine may be much shorter than many, guessing that the higher overall rpm per mile and a higher redline could put the average life around 100K miles. At the time the only high mileage car I was aware of belonged to Joe_S2K (about 80K), and shortly thereafter he spun a bearing.

 

IMHO, I think the MY2004's have some minor engine issues. I'd rather Honda reduce the weight of the car so that they can have a smaller displacement... and increased the rpm!

 

Put aside the anecdotal evidence for a minute. Consumer Reports, whether you love or hate them, performs one of the most exhaustive data collection efforts out there each year on all makes and models regarding reliability and frequency of repair. Look at the empirical data for the S2000 for the past few years, and compare it to similar cars (Boxster, TT, Z3, SLK, etc.).

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by JsnS2k
[B]"S2000's have motor issues"

 

Frankly, as most of the members/owners will admit, what you see most of the time on s2ki are the negatives not the positives.

I completely agree with REV IT... You should not look at the "engine failure" problem out of proportion. The numbers don't warrant that. The bigger concern (in my opinion, anyway) is that Honda has been silent on the issue of root cause and that pisses me off. The old 2-hole oil bolt may or may not have an impact on engine failures... Nobody knows, and HOnda ain't talking.

My point: The issue that the thread originator should be aware of is that there is a highly inconsistent reaction by dealerships across the country to repair claims. As REV IT says, you shouldn't worry about having engine damage. What you should worry about what Honda will do when you bring the car in. The biggest gripe I see on the board is not a product issue, it's a service/warrantee issue.

On the subject of engine failures... From what I've read here (admittedly all 2nd hand info since my S has not had any of these probs.) is that some dealers have brushed off owners with bullshit diagnoses like over-revved or oil not changed, when in fact the problem is something in the design. A lot of VALID claims that owners have had over the years have ended up being serviced as "goodwill" by the dealerships. Like the dealer is doing you some sort of favor .

Anyway, as cdelena will undoubtedly agree, you have to be comfortable with the fact that your friendly, neighborhood Honda dealer may not be so friendly when it comes to your S. The techs rarely see these cars, and AHM has been inconsistent about handling customers with major problems.

The good news: odds are (honestly) that you will not have anything major happen to your car.

 

You guys certainly have trouble with statistics.. we have seen approximately 45 failures in a population of approximately 4500. I know both numbers are unverified but the failure rate of about 1% has been holding true for the three years I have been watching, and as engines are finally starting to age could increase. Do not be in denial.. this is a high rate of failure in most businesses.