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Old 01-30-2010, 10:50 PM
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Default Definitive guide to completely eliminating RWS?

I've searched around 285 pages of search results on the subject but can't find a definitive guide to completely removing the rear wheel steering from a stock AP1.
I regularly drive a fantastic bit of undulating road which has constant changes in gradient and was a joy to drive in my last Mk2 Miata.
The S however is completely different, as the weight transfers and / or the camber changes the rear tries to move further than I want it too and slides need so much more input to control.
From what I understand the AP2 had the locating points of the toe arms changed to reduce the effect so after ten years has an aftermarket solution been found for the AP1?
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Get the UK alignment and be done with it. Most of what you read is a lack of skill. I wrecked my AP1 because I was unskilled in running a car with RWD. Now I'm not. Adding the UK alignment will calm it down. If the car is stepping out you're going too fast, or your tires are crap. $0.02
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http://www.gotuning.com/index.php?fPath=S2...sort=2a&page=10

have no idea if these work.
i'd like to know though if anyones got experience with them.
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Step 1 - Do your tires match, have good tread and have proper pressure?

Are they stock sizes or something different?

What kind of tires are on the car and are you having trouble in the wet, dry or both?
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Lol yes, and I've had step two adjusted too!
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Originally Posted by gifftech,Jan 31 2010, 03:21 AM
Lol yes, and I've had step two adjusted too!
Answer me these questions 3

Do your tires match, have good tread and have proper pressure?

Are they stock sizes or something different?

What kind of tires are on the car and are you having trouble in the wet, dry or both?
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Stock Bridgestones, good tread, 32 psi.
The problem isnt really any different in the wet or dry, its more that I can feel the rear end change as the weight transfers or as I adjust the throttle.
The roads here are fantastic but there are of course other road users, the RWS effect may well have benefits in certain conditions but having to compensate for it if I need to alter my speed / take off a bit over the crest of a hill etc is tedious.
I've been driving high power RWD cars for nearly two decades, I love the engine of the S but the RWS is not something I want on the car.
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If you've had your alignment done recently here are some things you could try to get the car to better suit your driving style:

Experiment with higher pressure in the front tires and less in the rear. TOo much of this will wear your tires sooner

Add a front sway bar

Get more tire on the rear. AP2 wheels/tires or ?

Adjustable coilovers
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More rear toe in solved the problem in my car when it was stock
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Cheers for the replies, I do plan to go to 245/45/16 tyres but hoped there would be a way or eliminating the RWS by know.
I've read with interest the threads that reffer to the T1R control arms but I'd like to have a proper look at an AP2 to see how Honda solved the problem.


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