Cruising at high RPM
#23
Originally Posted by thomsbrain,May 6 2009, 10:46 PM
Yeah, but the "number" of the gear doesn't have anything to do with how fast the engine is spinning. Only the ratio of the gear makes any difference. Sure, we can drive in "6th" at 35 MPH, but it's not magically spinning slower than a taller gearset in "4th" just because the number of the gear is higher. And after 35 MPH, we never have a taller gear to change into, while most cars have a taller ratio or two left to change into as speed increases.
You can lug the 2.2L in an old Accord around town at 1500 RPM, and the V6 in a newer Accord will pull from around 1200 RPM, but the S2000 lugs very badly below 2000 RPM, so you almost always have to run more revs than other cars, regardless of the situation.
Just like a buzzy motorcycle engine, this will eventually lead to the engine wearing out more quickly than a comparable engine with taller gearing.
That said, the S2000 still seems to be a reliable car for the sports-car segment. And 30 MPG+ on the highway is great for a sports car, regardless of how subjectively "fast" the engine seems to be spinning.
You can lug the 2.2L in an old Accord around town at 1500 RPM, and the V6 in a newer Accord will pull from around 1200 RPM, but the S2000 lugs very badly below 2000 RPM, so you almost always have to run more revs than other cars, regardless of the situation.
Just like a buzzy motorcycle engine, this will eventually lead to the engine wearing out more quickly than a comparable engine with taller gearing.
That said, the S2000 still seems to be a reliable car for the sports-car segment. And 30 MPG+ on the highway is great for a sports car, regardless of how subjectively "fast" the engine seems to be spinning.
#25
Originally Posted by zzziippyyy,May 6 2009, 10:01 PM
^ if thats the case our motors must be good for millions of miles if never shut off. seriously think of how many times you will start your car in its lifetime
#26
^ Dude if it is the equivalent of 1-2K miles for each cold start. In NY every winter That should be the same as approximately 200K-400K miles of highway driving right there hahah.
Figure about 100 cold days starting the car at least twice per day..
Whoever told you that was misinformed haha.
Figure about 100 cold days starting the car at least twice per day..
Whoever told you that was misinformed haha.
#27
LOL, shoot, well I better let him know.
A guy name Jim Fitch, he was teaching a class on oil analysis that my company paid $1300 for just me to go, LOL.
The company puts out two magazines and they do consulting.
http://www.noria.com/services/profiles/profilelist.asp
How do you tell a cat who has 20+ experience that it didn't make sense when you think about it.
Don't buy royal purple, there was alot of them in his class, lol.
A guy name Jim Fitch, he was teaching a class on oil analysis that my company paid $1300 for just me to go, LOL.
The company puts out two magazines and they do consulting.
http://www.noria.com/services/profiles/profilelist.asp
How do you tell a cat who has 20+ experience that it didn't make sense when you think about it.
Don't buy royal purple, there was alot of them in his class, lol.
#30
Originally Posted by Modrummer,May 8 2009, 03:36 PM
So since you shift more with 4.77 gears, would that cause slightly more transmission wear as well?
The people that complain about having to shift all the time or the high rpm's on the highway have NEVER had 4.77 gears in their car!
So I guess every extra time you shift technically puts more wear on the transmission but nothing noticeable at all. 1 more shift here and there won't hurt anything at all. Plus with this transmission who doesn't want to shift more...