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Old 05-07-2009 | 12:03 AM
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Life is too short not to work hard and play hard. Rev it up. Change you oil and your underwear and you'll be fine.
Old 05-07-2009 | 04:01 AM
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I just turned 11500 miles with my S. The last 5000 have been with 4.57's. I have no significant wear visable. . Oh. and on a recent trip I got 27.5 mpg.
Old 05-07-2009 | 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by thomsbrain,May 6 2009, 10:46 PM
Yeah, but the "number" of the gear doesn't have anything to do with how fast the engine is spinning. Only the ratio of the gear makes any difference. Sure, we can drive in "6th" at 35 MPH, but it's not magically spinning slower than a taller gearset in "4th" just because the number of the gear is higher. And after 35 MPH, we never have a taller gear to change into, while most cars have a taller ratio or two left to change into as speed increases.

You can lug the 2.2L in an old Accord around town at 1500 RPM, and the V6 in a newer Accord will pull from around 1200 RPM, but the S2000 lugs very badly below 2000 RPM, so you almost always have to run more revs than other cars, regardless of the situation.

Just like a buzzy motorcycle engine, this will eventually lead to the engine wearing out more quickly than a comparable engine with taller gearing.

That said, the S2000 still seems to be a reliable car for the sports-car segment. And 30 MPG+ on the highway is great for a sports car, regardless of how subjectively "fast" the engine seems to be spinning.
With the gears the car can comfortably drive at a lower rpm than the stock gearing since it is a torque multiplier. So driving in 6th at 35 will put you at a lower rpm than you could comfortably drive with stock gears.
Old 05-07-2009 | 09:10 AM
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Its not as much gas mileage thats an issue for me (as long as its still decent), its just the lifespan of the engine. Thanks for the info guys! You've been a great help so far.
Old 05-07-2009 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by zzziippyyy,May 6 2009, 10:01 PM
^ if thats the case our motors must be good for millions of miles if never shut off. seriously think of how many times you will start your car in its lifetime
Do a search on the percent of engine wear on a cold start, guess everyone is on the wrong page including S.A.E.

Old 05-07-2009 | 07:15 PM
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^ Dude if it is the equivalent of 1-2K miles for each cold start. In NY every winter That should be the same as approximately 200K-400K miles of highway driving right there hahah.
Figure about 100 cold days starting the car at least twice per day..

Whoever told you that was misinformed haha.
Old 05-07-2009 | 07:28 PM
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LOL, shoot, well I better let him know.

A guy name Jim Fitch, he was teaching a class on oil analysis that my company paid $1300 for just me to go, LOL.

The company puts out two magazines and they do consulting.

http://www.noria.com/services/profiles/profilelist.asp

How do you tell a cat who has 20+ experience that it didn't make sense when you think about it.

Don't buy royal purple, there was alot of them in his class, lol.
Old 05-07-2009 | 07:48 PM
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Well I guess my engine has gotten the equivalent of over well over 1,000,000 highway miles on it so far. Doing pretty good if you ask me...
Old 05-08-2009 | 11:36 AM
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So since you shift more with 4.77 gears, would that cause slightly more transmission wear as well?
Old 05-08-2009 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Modrummer,May 8 2009, 03:36 PM
So since you shift more with 4.77 gears, would that cause slightly more transmission wear as well?
No. The whole thing about people saying it sucks cause you shift more is absurd. You have to shift one more time if you want to cruise in in what would be 5th gear before. No big deal. Around town it's really no different besides that it feels much better and all.
The people that complain about having to shift all the time or the high rpm's on the highway have NEVER had 4.77 gears in their car!

So I guess every extra time you shift technically puts more wear on the transmission but nothing noticeable at all. 1 more shift here and there won't hurt anything at all. Plus with this transmission who doesn't want to shift more...


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