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Old 05-11-2006, 01:55 PM
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Had my heart set on an AP1, but started thinking, why not an AP2 instead?

AP1 +'s:
-9k RPM
-rear valance more lo-key, better for single exhaust
-firmer sway bars (right?)
-VTEC hits harder

-anything else?


AP2 +'s:
-newer
-nicer headlights, LED tails
-17's stock
-seems to look more muscular from some angles
(are the body panels identical to the AP1?)

-anything else?

So basically, what is improved between say, an 04 to an 03?
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who told u vtec hits harder on ap1's???
Old 05-11-2006, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ForNgoods,May 11 2006, 05:01 PM
who told u vtec hits harder on ap1's???
Only an owner of an Ap2 would say something like that............



























j/k






I am dealing with the same issue. I want a *New* car, but i am not sure I want an Ap2.

Damn you Honda!
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AP2 is faster, straight line and handling, done deal!


BTW, Vtec might feel as if it kicks less only because there is more power before the engagement point.
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the ap1 is slightly more exciting to drive, but the ap2 feels like a nicer car, better ride quality, smoother trans, steering.
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P.S., I've owned both!
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Drive both then decide which one YOU want more.
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VTEC "hitting harder" is actually BAD, because this is a sign that you're making far more power during VTEC than before it... where-as on the AP2 it is making much more power before VTEC, so the transition is much more smooth.

This topic has been beaten to death, but... Ive owned both and I like my AP2 far better.
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All I know is that if my car didn't have the 9k redline I wouldn't have bought it. It's what makes this car special and without that your just in BMW & Ferrari rev territory :yawn:
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Originally Posted by ForNgoods,May 11 2006, 02:01 PM
who told u vtec hits harder on ap1's???
Well, I've driven both. I don't have quantitative proof, but it sure seems like it does, especially the sound. My gf has an Accord w/VTEC, and you can't even tell.

Another + for the AP2 I just thought of - gearing. Lower gearing in 1st, taller gearing in 6th.


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