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Old 07-27-2005 | 08:21 PM
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now I see you question, yes, the first split second as you dump the clutch, drill it to wot, then feather

yep, you only want the tires to spin a little at first, as she gets going, if you don't feather it , you'll just spin and spin through second.
Old 07-28-2005 | 05:59 AM
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If you do it wrong ................. once or twice.
If you do it right ................... who knows? Hundreds? Thousands?

What constitutes a WRONG dump?
Old 07-28-2005 | 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by jal3lee,Jul 25 2005, 09:48 PM
but I want to try a couple jsut in case the situation calls for it and I don't look like a fool.
What situation? You are creating your own stressful situation here. (usually to impress a perfect stranger) Drive and enjoy the car for a while before you risk permanent (and expensive) damage to it. Get to know the beast, learn its limits first.
Just my conservative 0.2 cents.
Old 07-28-2005 | 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by PhilipLowe,Jul 28 2005, 06:59 AM

What constitutes a WRONG dump?
I have learned over the years of being on this forum that I will not detail what is right or what is wrong as far as this subject goes. People have a tendency to take things very literally and what I might print here to describe what is "wrong" can be taken that anything else is "right". Then the person goes out and does what he thinks is right, break something and comes back and holds me to blame. Sorry, I won't put myself through that grief anymore.
I can tell you though, that once you fully understand how a car's drivetrain (especially this one) is put together and how it all interacts, you will be able to formulate what is right and what is wrong.
Old 07-28-2005 | 09:08 AM
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i was wondering.. does the 04 05 slave cylinder delay make dropping dangerous to your clutch?
Old 07-28-2005 | 09:09 AM
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Dangarza
i'm pretty conservative when I drive also.. but i do like to open it up once in a while.. i've never launched the car before and probably won't do so for a while until i get used to the car.. but when i come to the point when I want to try to launch (at the track or on the street), then I would like to know what i'm doing and not do it incorrectly.. at least by hearing how other people launch, i will get a feel fro what I want to do when i do it..
Old 07-28-2005 | 09:38 AM
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Hey jal3lee: Sorry if I sounded a little patronizing, not my intent, but I've been around these forums for a few years and keep reading stories of people damaging the clutch or even worse, usually from abusive launches.
Biggest problem is that many people don't think about the costs of a repair of this kind before they engage in this behavior.
This car is a great autocrosser, but you can make better times with proper braking and cornering at which this car -because of its low weight- truly excels, than brutal launching at which this car is not very good, due to its low torque engine and rather fragile drivetrain.
So IMHO it's probably better (for you and your new baby) to polish your cornering and braking technique, -as it will yield better times- than risking your drivetrain with a potentially damaging launch that will gain you only a few tenths.
Again, a matter of opinion, my feeling is that this car is meant for the curves, more than the dragstrip.
I don't care how careful and experienced you are, launching your car at 6,000 or more RPM is hard on your drivetrain (clutch in particular) but then again, it is your priorities and it is your car...
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Old 07-28-2005 | 10:16 AM
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Old 07-28-2005 | 10:19 AM
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i was wondering.. does the 04 05 slave cylinder delay make dropping dangerous to your clutch?
yes. It causes the clutch to take the brunt of the force, instead of the drivetrain and the differential. It should be disabled. There is a DIY on that somewhere on here...

John
Old 07-28-2005 | 10:25 AM
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Removal of the delay transfers the brunt of the force of clutch dumping from the cluth to the diff and tranny, which are much more expensive than the clutch F.D., you ought to mention this when giving advice. It's a cost/benefits issue that everyone needs to decide for themselves after understanding the risks involved. The general consensus is that if you don't notice the delay or it doesn't bother you, leave it in. There is also a good chance that removing the delay will cause any warranty claim on drivetrain components to be denied. Something to think about.


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