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Old 10-05-2005 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 4wheelVFR,Oct 5 2005, 04:40 PM
Dude, forget what everybody else is saying! It looks like they are posting answers to questions you didn't ask. Everybody has opinions, you had to see some of those responses coming. There are a lot of good folks on this forum, don't let a few walking penises get to you. Good luck getting things sorted out. The one time I totaled my bike (due mostly to me riding too fast, and partly to a LOT of gravel on a road where it shouldn't have been) my school picked up the med bills and my auto insurance payed for my bike. Hope everything goes well for you. By the way, keep the screen name and definitely keep the avatar!
I've never ridden with a VFR rider I didn't like.
Old 10-05-2005 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Kratos,Oct 5 2005, 04:42 PM
I've never ridden with a VFR rider I didn't like.
Ha! The VFR is my favorite bike! Gotta love that sound. Wife won't let me have another bike though.....probably a good idea.
Old 10-05-2005 | 04:48 PM
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Yeah get something else.

Your post is FULL OF BS it stinks.
You pushed your car above and beyond your limit. Face the music.
Don't blame anything else but you.

This car is so honest, it will do exactly what you want the car to do.

So there you have it.

Old 10-05-2005 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Kratos,Oct 5 2005, 05:29 PM
I've been driving for 10 years without incident, raced motorcycles competitively without incident, and have a better than average understanding of vehicle dynamics. Having driven over 200,000 miles in my life time without so much as a close call, I was simply trying to convey that I could not figure out why I lost traction.

My concerns were twofold, and I though they were clear.

1. I wanted to make sure that I get enough money to replace my car as I've never dealt with an insurance claim, and have heard that insurance companies like to be as stingy as possible.

2. Wanted to see if anyone had any advice on how to deal with a bogus ticket (as I have never had one before).
I drove for 18 years before my first crash. That didn't mean it wasn't my fault, though. It was a single car accident, in the rain, in my S2000. I lost control and spun the car off the road. Sound familiar? The only difference is that I was luckier in my choice of where I went off road.

As for why you lost traction, if there was any standing water at all then probably you hydroplaned. I had a nasty accident on track where only half the car hydroplaned (at about 80mph). The differential thrust (drag on one side, still pushing on the other) rotated the car much faster than I could catch it, and I was into the wall. But again, I didn't look for anybody to "compensate" me.

I did make a claim for the damage on the car and the medical bills, because that's what I pay insurance for. But all the other things like lost time, stress, etc. -- I just had to eat those. Call it the cost of living life.

1) Assuming the car is totalled, keep in mind that you can negotiate with the insurance company for a fair market value. Don't expect to get a windfall, though. Price out the car on the internet using something like Edmunds.com and get an idea of the market price.

2) You have the right to take the ticket to court. Based on your story here, you will lose. If you have a better story to tell, consider hiring a lawyer. This will cost you more money than just paying the ticket, but if you win you will keep your record clean. It probably won't have any effect on your insurance settlement or rates either way.
Old 10-05-2005 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by soundzero,Oct 5 2005, 04:48 PM
Yeah get something else.

Your post is FULL OF BS it stinks.
You pushed your car above and beyond your limit. Face the music.
Don't blame anything else but you.

This car is so honest, it will do exactly what you want the car to do.

So there you have it.
I've noticed how honest the car is, that's whay I was suprised this happened.

You're a swell guy. Thanks for putting me in my place. I never looked at it like that before. I really appreciate your honesty and input. Thanks Friend. :


I guess I didn't realize what an idiot I was until just now. Thanks so much!
Old 10-05-2005 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by mikegarrison,Oct 5 2005, 04:52 PM
I drove for 18 years before my first crash. That didn't mean it wasn't my fault, though. It was a single car accident, in the rain, in my S2000. I lost control and spun the car off the road. Sound familiar? The only difference is that I was luckier in my choice of where I went off road.

As for why you lost traction, if there was any standing water at all then probably you hydroplaned. I had a nasty accident on track where only half the car hydroplaned (at about 80mph). The differential thrust (drag on one side, still pushing on the other) rotated the car much faster than I could catch it, and I was into the wall. But again, I didn't look for anybody to "compensate" me.

I did make a claim for the damage on the car and the medical bills, because that's what I pay insurance for. But all the other things like lost time, stress, etc. -- I just had to eat those. Call it the cost of living life.

1) Assuming the car is totalled, keep in mind that you can negotiate with the insurance company for a fair market value. Don't expect to get a windfall, though. Price out the car on the internet using something like Edmunds.com and get an idea of the market price.

2) You have the right to take the ticket to court. Based on your story here, you will lose. If you have a better story to tell, consider hiring a lawyer. This will cost you more money than just paying the ticket, but if you win you will keep your record clean. It probably won't have any effect on your insurance settlement or rates either way.
An intelligent and meaningful post. Thank you!


to reitterate: I never said this wasn't my fault. I only said I couldn't figure out why it happened.


Old 10-05-2005 | 05:02 PM
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I forgot to add, but if you have no tickets of any kind on your record, some states have a law that lets you be forgiven for the first one. You sort of go on probation, and as long as you don't get another ticket over the next year, the ticket disappears off your record. If you do get another ticket, you owe for both, immediately. If your record is clean, you might want to look into your local laws and see if something like that applies.
Old 10-05-2005 | 05:06 PM
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once you show up in court, the judge will ask if anyone or anyone's property was damaged. If it was, you will need to show proof of compensation. and that includes public property like any guardrails or fences belonging to the D.O.T.

here in NC, they throw out tickets like this once financial obligations have been met. the court date is just to show up to prove you "paid up".

as for the driving thing, sorry man. I know people can be dicks. but it's your fault, unintentionally. People dissed on me last year when I decided to walk home from a neighborhood bar instead of driving and got run over by a pickup truck doing 55+. People, including the cop, told me what the hell was I doing walking down the street at 1 A.M. on a weeknight. Like a weekend would have been ok?

You wont see much money for mental stuff, hell, I was outta work for 2 months and then 3 weeks of work/school after that for depositions and court schedules and never recieved any "extra" money. Only that which I could document. So if you have a sales or performance-based job and can prove on paper your income has drastically slowed, like 50%, then maybe.


Hope you're not stuck in a domestic rental too long
Old 10-05-2005 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by DrDre1443,Oct 5 2005, 06:06 PM
People dissed on me last year when I decided to walk home from a neighborhood bar instead of driving and got run over by a pickup truck doing 55+. People, including the cop, told me what the hell was I doing walking down the street at 1 A.M. on a weeknight. Like a weekend would have been ok?

You wont see much money for mental stuff, hell, I was outta work for 2 months and then 3 weeks of work/school after that for depositions and court schedules and never recieved any "extra" money. Only that which I could document. So if you have a sales or performance-based job and can prove on paper your income has drastically slowed, like 50%, then maybe.
There's a big difference between getting hit by someone else and being in a one-car accident. You do deserve compensation for losses incurred by the actions of someone else. If you crash your own car, though....
Old 10-05-2005 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by DrDre1443,Oct 5 2005, 06:06 PM
here in NC, they throw out tickets like this once financial obligations have been met.
Not so in WA. There is no substitute for getting legal advice from someone who knows how the law works in your own state!


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