anyone have any thoughts on non-stagared tires?
#1
anyone have any thoughts on non-stagared tires?
I am more than likely getting a set of volk gt-c's that are 17x8..... the tires are nitto 555s, but not staggared (spelling?).... any thoughts? I couldn't get a reply in the tire forum.... just figured someone might have some info... thanks.
#2
if u want looks, it won't make a big difference really. I have 17x8 and 17x7 on my car (GTNs) and am thinking of going 18x7.5 all around as the wheels i want only fit in that size.
I bought my wheels so i could use stockers for the track. I don't drive my car at the limit on the street, so the width thing doesn't bother me.
I guess it's up to you. It's not a big deal. Probably save you $$ as u can rotate tires and get cheaper tires too.
I bought my wheels so i could use stockers for the track. I don't drive my car at the limit on the street, so the width thing doesn't bother me.
I guess it's up to you. It's not a big deal. Probably save you $$ as u can rotate tires and get cheaper tires too.
#4
If you're just tooling around town, no biggie.
It's not just the wheels, it's the tire size and hence, the tire contact patch. The car was designed to handle with staggered tires/wheels. Without this, at speed, the car may severely wander like a gypsy.
It's not just the wheels, it's the tire size and hence, the tire contact patch. The car was designed to handle with staggered tires/wheels. Without this, at speed, the car may severely wander like a gypsy.
#5
I wouldn't recommend it. I had 17x7 wheels all around and so I put 225/45-17 tires all around too and I used my stockers for track use. Unfortunately, this setup through my overall diameter out of whack and so whenever I shifted the car drifted to the left. The faster I went, the harder it pulled. Even shifting at 10mph it noticeably pulled to the left. To correct this I went and changed my tires to 215/45-17(front) and 235/40-17(back) and it worked great. Wasn't too expensive either. This time around, I'm getting staggered wheels and tires.
#6
I can say that I did it, and I'm very very pleased.
I've got 18x7.5s all around with 225/40/18.
The car is much more predicatable in handling. I have less understeer, and can push the rear with less effort when needed, so I feel more in-control.
Less "snap" oversteer, that unexpected surprise that can get ya in trouble.
There is no "wandering at all" as long as you get correct offsets, mine are 48.
I also can rotate tires easily
oh, and the car's stance is a little wider, and it feels more stable.
I Have the same overall diameter all around since the tires are all the same size.
I think the staggered setup is a little too extreme. There is too much of a difference in the stock tires since the rears have an extra-special wide track width in comparison to their "225" section width, whereas the front 205s have average tread width. It is in escence like running 205s in th front with 245s in the rear stock...a little extreme for such a fine handling car (the fronts are too skinny).
If you've got any other questions, you can send me a pm.
With the correct offsets, it is a great idea to throw out the staggered setup.
I've got 18x7.5s all around with 225/40/18.
The car is much more predicatable in handling. I have less understeer, and can push the rear with less effort when needed, so I feel more in-control.
Less "snap" oversteer, that unexpected surprise that can get ya in trouble.
There is no "wandering at all" as long as you get correct offsets, mine are 48.
I also can rotate tires easily
oh, and the car's stance is a little wider, and it feels more stable.
I Have the same overall diameter all around since the tires are all the same size.
I think the staggered setup is a little too extreme. There is too much of a difference in the stock tires since the rears have an extra-special wide track width in comparison to their "225" section width, whereas the front 205s have average tread width. It is in escence like running 205s in th front with 245s in the rear stock...a little extreme for such a fine handling car (the fronts are too skinny).
If you've got any other questions, you can send me a pm.
With the correct offsets, it is a great idea to throw out the staggered setup.
#7
Originally posted by S2K1
I wouldn't recommend it. I had 17x7 wheels all around and so I put 225/45-17 tires all around too and I used my stockers for track use. Unfortunately, this setup through my overall diameter out of whack and so whenever I shifted the car drifted to the left.
I wouldn't recommend it. I had 17x7 wheels all around and so I put 225/45-17 tires all around too and I used my stockers for track use. Unfortunately, this setup through my overall diameter out of whack and so whenever I shifted the car drifted to the left.
A tire which has a tread width of 8.1-inches (as measured on a 7.5-inch wheel) would actually have a tread width of 8.3-inches if placed on an 8-inch wheel) It might surprise folks to know a 225/40/18 tire on all four corners may not have the same tread width because the rear wheel width might be larger than the front, thus creating more contact patch from those two rear tires despite the fact they're the same section width as the fronts. There is a practical reason why the wheel widths are staggered and that is to support the variation required in tire widths. If you're fooling around with a 205/225 combo, you can use the same width wheel. A 245mm tire, however, will not mount properly on a wheel sized to fit a 205, you'd want to go at least one half-inch higher (say a 17x8 as opposed to a front mounted 17x7.5). The OEM stagger is 1.6 inches only because the rear S0-2 tire is mounted on a wheel one-half inch wider than the 7-inch wheel Bridgestone used to determine the S0-2's specs, which results in a tire tread width 5mm more than usual. For comedic sake, if someone decides to mount his Potenzas on a 16x6.5 wheel, the OEM stagger of 1.6-inches is reduced to 1.1-inches. Are you bored yet?
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