Acura RL OEM Brakes (4 pot) on S2K
04-27-2006 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by SpitfireS,Apr 27 2006, 11:26 AM
There is a difference in upgrading and changing.
In my mind upgrading means swapping part A for part B, while both parts are designed (and fit) for the same car, with part B being better.
I'm no brake engineer, but machining (changing) brake parts to make them fit doesn't look right to me.
With machining you change the design of that part. Changing it for the better I hope.
I work in a maintenance machine shop and have acces to mills, laths, the lot.
I would refuse to work/change on other peoples brake parts.
I would not even think about machining my own.
I recon it's not just the work or money, it is also about safety.
And how would you road test an emergency stop to see if the parts hold?
And what if they don't?
Just more brake force will get the ABS to work harder IMO.
With OEM calipers you can get the ABS to step in = enough brake force.
I hope this doesn't sound to negative
In my mind upgrading means swapping part A for part B, while both parts are designed (and fit) for the same car, with part B being better.
I'm no brake engineer, but machining (changing) brake parts to make them fit doesn't look right to me.
With machining you change the design of that part. Changing it for the better I hope.
I work in a maintenance machine shop and have acces to mills, laths, the lot.
I would refuse to work/change on other peoples brake parts.
I would not even think about machining my own.
I recon it's not just the work or money, it is also about safety.
And how would you road test an emergency stop to see if the parts hold?
And what if they don't?
Just more brake force will get the ABS to work harder IMO.
With OEM calipers you can get the ABS to step in = enough brake force.
I hope this doesn't sound to negative
There are a few safe places I can rent that have enough room to test. Take a couple stock tests, mark the distance...and stick a barney doll on that spot. Hehe. See If i hit it or not with a few hundred stops. :-)
I agree that there is an amount of machining that I will not do, but thus far I don't think it's much. I still need to do more research into the matter.
04-27-2006 | 11:50 AM
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For reference:
2006 Viper stops from 60-0 mph in less than 100 feet.
This link at SCC http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/fe...8scc_comptech/
has the 4pot brembos doing a 117 feet stop from 60-0.
MotorTrend did a test and it shows the AP1 did 110 feet 60-0 stop. **WOW**.
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupe/...pecs_price.html
2006 Viper stops from 60-0 mph in less than 100 feet.
This link at SCC http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/fe...8scc_comptech/
has the 4pot brembos doing a 117 feet stop from 60-0.
MotorTrend did a test and it shows the AP1 did 110 feet 60-0 stop. **WOW**.
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupe/...pecs_price.html
04-27-2006 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by vAnt,Apr 27 2006, 11:46 AM
The RL has different sized Rotors then the S2000.
Logic seems to tell me that these calipers were designed to perform best for the larger rotors in the RL. Not good for the S2000.
Logic seems to tell me that these calipers were designed to perform best for the larger rotors in the RL. Not good for the S2000.
Sizes go all the way to 330mm +
You know, there is...was... someone on this forum who was quite Knowledgeable about brake clearence issues...
04-27-2006 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by jzz30,Apr 27 2006, 02:33 PM
im not opposing this, i was actually thinking of putting on nsx brakes cus they say nsx haha!!! plus they are 2p's wait are the S brakes 2p's too?
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04-27-2006 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by VAD,Apr 27 2006, 12:05 PM
S2000's have single-piston sliding calipers. If you want your S to stop REALLY well, get some good track pads and call it a day. (Obviously, don't forget good tires and rotors, too )
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04-27-2006 | 03:11 PM
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yea that was just a thought cuz my friend has them lying around. with stock pads you can kick in the abs so if you go with more rubber up front that alone can decrease stopping distance. pads would come in to work at higher temps and so that it will have endurance at high temps.
