Are 245/45/17's too big for the rear wheel wells, or for my 17x7 rims?
02-26-2003, 03:16 PM
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Russ,
You can run different tire sizes on the same with...it is all just what type of reaction you car will have to each one of them.
Even if he has the same width rims he should get aleast a 10mm more in the rear. runny the same width wheels around is the big no no and that should be fixed....
you can run 245 on the stock rears...especially if somebody does not use the stock S02 you should go 245 to get the same kind of reaction...... and at least a 215...if not 225 in the front..... For the stock 16s.
I am Right Russ!!!! leave me alone!!
You can run different tire sizes on the same with...it is all just what type of reaction you car will have to each one of them.
Even if he has the same width rims he should get aleast a 10mm more in the rear. runny the same width wheels around is the big no no and that should be fixed....
you can run 245 on the stock rears...especially if somebody does not use the stock S02 you should go 245 to get the same kind of reaction...... and at least a 215...if not 225 in the front..... For the stock 16s.
I am Right Russ!!!! leave me alone!!
02-26-2003, 03:28 PM
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I've been on 17x7's all around for a couple months now. Surprisingly it feels great! 235/40's on the rear -- that's what I'm ordering.
02-26-2003, 06:49 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Roku_F20C
Russ,
You can run different tire sizes on the same with...it is all just what type of reaction you car will have to each one of them.
Of course you can, but there is a limit to the width of a tire you can place on a 7-inch wheel. You did not read my post clearly. In the bests interests of stagger, it's always easier to use larger sized wheels in the rear. For example, Honda's 6.5/7.5-inch combo. In his case, it appears he is using a 7-inch wheel on both axles which usually indicates the most stagger he can offer himself and still maintain proper diameter is 25mm. Such was my suggestion.
Even if he has the same width rims he should get aleast a 10mm more in the rear.
Did I not say that with my recommendation above? I recommended the maximum size tire he can put on a 7-inch wheel and still be within proper diameter variances.
runny the same width wheels around is the big no no and that should be fixed. Well, yeah. Any S2000 owner should know that.
you can run 245 on the stock rears...especially if somebody does not use the stock S02 you should go 245 to get the same kind of reaction.
You CANNOT use a 245 tire on a 7-inch wheel designed for the S2000. I can't figure out what part of that sentence you seem to be missing. He said he owns 7-inch wheels, not OEM 7.5-inch wheels and once again, the aspect ratio of the tire has a part in the determination of proper wheel width...it's not just grabbing any 245 and saying it will fit. In his case, It is definitely not recommended and anyone who says otherwise needs to read a tire spec sheet. and at least a 215...if not 225 in the front..... For the stock 16s.
He owns 17-inch tires. Why are we talking about stock wheels? Also, a 225 in front with a stock S0-2 is not proper either. The construction of the front OEM Bridgestone results in a tire than is narrower in tread width than your atypical 205 while the rear 225 has a tread width that exceeds some manufacturers 245! This stagger is built into each tire for a purpose. So right from the showroom you're looking at a stagger of 45mm at least. Why on earth would you attempt to narrow it (assuming you were talking replacement OEM tires).
I am Right Russ!!!! leave me alone!!
No, you're wrong. Visit Tire Rack for the info you need to understand proper wheel widths for specific sized tires. Each tire's dimensions are derived from a measured wheel width. There are variances in recommended wheel widths which usually fall somewhere between 1-inch and 1.5-inches of either side of the measured wheel width. It normally is recommended never to deviate beyond 15% of a tires tread width when mounting its wheel. For instance, a 245mm tire (9.6-inches) normally can be mounted on an 8-9.5-inch width wheel with variances depending on the aspect ratio. Trying to squeeze a 245mm tire on a 7-inch wheel is hysterically funny but more importantly, downright dangerous.
Steve UCI, I suggest you too visit Tire Rack...try the link below just for a quick reference point.
You'll find that the minimum recommended wheel width for a 235/40/17 is 8-inches, certainly not 7-inches. You do know that any attempt to squeeze that tire on a 7-inch wheel not only will cup the hell out of it but also decrease your tread width by 15mm, which essentially turns your 235 into a 220. These specs are there for a reason.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Spec.jsp?mak...ECSTA+Supra+712
Russ,
You can run different tire sizes on the same with...it is all just what type of reaction you car will have to each one of them.
Of course you can, but there is a limit to the width of a tire you can place on a 7-inch wheel. You did not read my post clearly. In the bests interests of stagger, it's always easier to use larger sized wheels in the rear. For example, Honda's 6.5/7.5-inch combo. In his case, it appears he is using a 7-inch wheel on both axles which usually indicates the most stagger he can offer himself and still maintain proper diameter is 25mm. Such was my suggestion.
Even if he has the same width rims he should get aleast a 10mm more in the rear.
Did I not say that with my recommendation above? I recommended the maximum size tire he can put on a 7-inch wheel and still be within proper diameter variances.
runny the same width wheels around is the big no no and that should be fixed. Well, yeah. Any S2000 owner should know that.
you can run 245 on the stock rears...especially if somebody does not use the stock S02 you should go 245 to get the same kind of reaction.
You CANNOT use a 245 tire on a 7-inch wheel designed for the S2000. I can't figure out what part of that sentence you seem to be missing. He said he owns 7-inch wheels, not OEM 7.5-inch wheels and once again, the aspect ratio of the tire has a part in the determination of proper wheel width...it's not just grabbing any 245 and saying it will fit. In his case, It is definitely not recommended and anyone who says otherwise needs to read a tire spec sheet. and at least a 215...if not 225 in the front..... For the stock 16s.
He owns 17-inch tires. Why are we talking about stock wheels? Also, a 225 in front with a stock S0-2 is not proper either. The construction of the front OEM Bridgestone results in a tire than is narrower in tread width than your atypical 205 while the rear 225 has a tread width that exceeds some manufacturers 245! This stagger is built into each tire for a purpose. So right from the showroom you're looking at a stagger of 45mm at least. Why on earth would you attempt to narrow it (assuming you were talking replacement OEM tires).
I am Right Russ!!!! leave me alone!!
No, you're wrong. Visit Tire Rack for the info you need to understand proper wheel widths for specific sized tires. Each tire's dimensions are derived from a measured wheel width. There are variances in recommended wheel widths which usually fall somewhere between 1-inch and 1.5-inches of either side of the measured wheel width. It normally is recommended never to deviate beyond 15% of a tires tread width when mounting its wheel. For instance, a 245mm tire (9.6-inches) normally can be mounted on an 8-9.5-inch width wheel with variances depending on the aspect ratio. Trying to squeeze a 245mm tire on a 7-inch wheel is hysterically funny but more importantly, downright dangerous.
Steve UCI, I suggest you too visit Tire Rack...try the link below just for a quick reference point.
You'll find that the minimum recommended wheel width for a 235/40/17 is 8-inches, certainly not 7-inches. You do know that any attempt to squeeze that tire on a 7-inch wheel not only will cup the hell out of it but also decrease your tread width by 15mm, which essentially turns your 235 into a 220. These specs are there for a reason.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Spec.jsp?mak...ECSTA+Supra+712
02-27-2003, 06:58 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Russ
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There are alot of people out there that are not using the stock S02 and go with 245 in the back...just because the S02 are close to really being 245 than a true 225. the way it was designed.
Granted I never really said to go with 245 on a 7 inch will would be the best Idea...but its not gonna kill anything.
Steve going with 235/40/17 is bad because it is not as tall as a 225/50/16....your speedo will be off, and changes your gearing a little, and they will spin a little easier because of the less amount of tread contact to the ground compared to Stock tires.
Same reason why out here all VW and other Euro cars are putting 205's on a 9 inch wheel....I believe it is stupid and it will mess up your rim...but its not gonna kill anything.
235 on a 7 inch rim should be ok...granted they do stick out. I have seen 245 on a 7 inch.
But like I said before and stick with it 245 on the rear stock rim...if you are not using S02.
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Originally posted by Roku_F20C
Russ,
No, you're wrong. Visit Tire Rack for the info you need to understand proper wheel widths for specific sized tires. Each tire's dimensions are derived from a measured wheel width. There are variances in recommended wheel widths which usually fall somewhere between 1-inch and 1.5-inches of either side of the measured wheel width. It normally is recommended never to deviate beyond 15% of a tires tread width when mounting its wheel. For instance, a 245mm tire (9.6-inches) normally can be mounted on an 8-9.5-inch width wheel with variances depending on the aspect ratio. Trying to squeeze a 245mm tire on a 7-inch wheel is hysterically funny but more importantly, downright dangerous.
Russ,
No, you're wrong. Visit Tire Rack for the info you need to understand proper wheel widths for specific sized tires. Each tire's dimensions are derived from a measured wheel width. There are variances in recommended wheel widths which usually fall somewhere between 1-inch and 1.5-inches of either side of the measured wheel width. It normally is recommended never to deviate beyond 15% of a tires tread width when mounting its wheel. For instance, a 245mm tire (9.6-inches) normally can be mounted on an 8-9.5-inch width wheel with variances depending on the aspect ratio. Trying to squeeze a 245mm tire on a 7-inch wheel is hysterically funny but more importantly, downright dangerous.
Granted I never really said to go with 245 on a 7 inch will would be the best Idea...but its not gonna kill anything.
Steve going with 235/40/17 is bad because it is not as tall as a 225/50/16....your speedo will be off, and changes your gearing a little, and they will spin a little easier because of the less amount of tread contact to the ground compared to Stock tires.
Same reason why out here all VW and other Euro cars are putting 205's on a 9 inch wheel....I believe it is stupid and it will mess up your rim...but its not gonna kill anything.
235 on a 7 inch rim should be ok...granted they do stick out. I have seen 245 on a 7 inch.
But like I said before and stick with it 245 on the rear stock rim...if you are not using S02.
02-27-2003, 01:43 PM
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hehe I found a 255/50/17 tire that can go on a 17 x 7 rim.......
1-888-541-1777 ext 364...
He is very knowledgable, especially witht the S2K!
02-27-2003, 01:43 PM
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hehe I found a 255/50/17 tire that can go on a 17 x 7 rim.......
1-888-541-1777 ext 364...
He is very knowledgable, especially with the S2K!