Harpoon

Here are the rest of the pages - couldn't put more than 20 on the first page of the modified post.

Chazmo

Look at the Miata... Nearly 10 years with no significant reason to upgrade. Arguably 15.

Look at the Boxster... 'Till the S version came out, there was very little reason to upgrade.

I'm not sure what's surprising.

That said, other than the new color, I completely agree with you. And, even with that, you could do a full repaint for, what, $4-5K?

Harpoon, thanks, again. You're the man.

Chazmo

So, the seats look the same to me except for the headrest. Think that'll have any impact on theft? The seat bottom looks the same to me. Right/wrong?

shartz

It's very interesting when people complain that VSA didn't save them when they took their car way beyond the limits. The danger may be that some people will think they can push their car harder than ever and be safe. The simple truth is that VSA will only do so much. If you push the car hard enough, then physics will win each and every time.

Pulling the fuse is definitely one way to defeat the system. However, I can imagine most people will be annoyed by the continuous presence of a VSA warning lamp which will be displayed on the meter.

For those people who say that VSA destroys the sportscar image:
Yes there is always the Ferrari argument. More importantly though, I wouldn't feel my manhood threatened or my sportscar's status degraded by having variable brake distribution in place for unexpected situations that could cause loss of life or property to me or someone else on the road. These systems are the way of the future, and will be in place for most cars some way down the road. Having VSA makes good marketing sense for automotive companies, because it allows them to put in place an extra level of "safety for everyone." It makes the public feel more comfortable.

If you want pure unadulterated sportscar fun in which you have absolutely full control of, then build a kit car and go autocrossing.

Jason B

I love my seats with the cool cutout and mesh!



Now the new seats are "ordinary".

Harpoon

Yes, seat bottom does look exactly the same. The two page picture of the interior has a bunch of weird glare in it that probably doesn't scan very easily. I think the center console is the same, but it does look different - possibly due to the lighting.

Comparing the '05 and '06 brochures - it does look like they ps'ed the pictures. They had to change the headrests in a bunch of the pictures.

The cover and back of the brochure are made of this very cool rubbery paper.

mad-dog-one

When I got the 06 booklet at the dealer (Spreen Honda in So. California), they did not even know that it was out. I told them that the manual had just been released and they opened a box in the back room and, viola, there was the manual. I felt like they shouldn't even give it to me, but gladly took it and ran. At this point, I don't think the dealers know as much about the 06 S2K as we do on this site, including proposed pricing. BTW, for the people who have been asking about MSRP ...the marketing booklets for Honda's and for most other cars don't contain pricing info.

mad-dog-one

The VSA switch is on the dash, behind the steering-wheel and below the fuel gage. You can see it in the side picture of the cockpit (in the booklet) that is labeled connect. You can also see the red LED temperature displayed in the console above the odometer reading.

Brownergy

Well that will be nice if the VSA can be fully turned off.

As far as the Headrest being a great safety improvement, I didn't even know that was a problem before. Everybody I've spoke to whos been in a wreck with the S2000 hasn't complained about the headrest design.

And for speakers, that's the great thing about the aftermarket, If I wanted more speakers I could buy them, if I wanted an outside temp gauge I could buy one. If Honda was smart, they would keep all these bells and whistles as optional equipment, so the people that want a raw sports car can have it, and the people that want a sporty conv. tourer, can have that too. For me, track performance is the most important thing to me, so anything that takes away from the racing experience is a in my book. I understand not everybody has the same feelings, but people that want a more luxurious sports car should get the 350Z. People that want a more raw car could get the Elise, and for the people that need something in between, the S2000 is the ticket.

As for the weight, yes 20lbs is miniscule, but look how many people are buying lighter seats, wheels, or exhausts just to save 20lbs.

lig

DSC in my '03 E320 Mercedes-Benz was not completely defeatable. It was horrible. The drive-by-wire was horrible. The fiber optic cables were problematic. The tranny shift programming was indecisive at best.

Newer is not always better. The W210s felt better going down the road. The W211s did look much better though.