00-03 vs 04+
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The "softer" suspension is definitely only a relative difference that is really only noticable when you drive the cars back to back.
I did just that and noticed. However, the 04 still rides like a sports car. The way some talk about how much softer it is, makes it sound like the car has been ride-engineered by Lincoln. Not the case by a long shot.
I think the difference, in terms of handling capability, is more dependent on driver than on car capability.
I did just that and noticed. However, the 04 still rides like a sports car. The way some talk about how much softer it is, makes it sound like the car has been ride-engineered by Lincoln. Not the case by a long shot.
I think the difference, in terms of handling capability, is more dependent on driver than on car capability.
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The cars have gotten softer every year after 01. Dumb American drivers ...
I used to get a chuckle out of the threads that started about this time of year when the roads get wet and cold -- "I spun my S2000 into (name your object here). You suck, learn how to drive.
I used to get a chuckle out of the threads that started about this time of year when the roads get wet and cold -- "I spun my S2000 into (name your object here). You suck, learn how to drive.
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Originally Posted by Elistan,Oct 14 2004, 01:49 PM
The stock '04 front tires have hardly any grip, though. With proper sized race tires the car is nicely balanced, but on stock tires it understeers like a fwd pig.
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Originally Posted by steve c,Oct 14 2004, 07:17 PM
The cars have gotten softer every year after 01.
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You know everyone states how the 04 was made softer, which is true, but it was made softer at the right place, at the rear. Also, no one mensions that the front was stiffened. This allows the rear of the car to grip better.
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Originally Posted by steve c,Oct 15 2004, 03:17 AM
I used to get a chuckle out of the threads that started about this time of year when the roads get wet and cold -- "I spun my S2000 into (name your object here). You suck, learn how to drive.
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Originally Posted by steve c,Oct 14 2004, 06:17 PM
The cars have gotten softer every year after 01. Dumb American drivers ...
For the rest of us that drive on real roads, the "softened" rear end gives a little more control and drivebility to the car.
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Originally Posted by DimaK321,Oct 14 2004, 11:34 AM
there are plenty of discussions about 0 to 60 and 1/4mi... enough of that...
what about handling?
which handles better? 00-03 or 04+ ?
i have seen an average of .92Gs for the 00-03 and .88Gs for the 04+
what is going on? is this because of the softened up suspension?
what about handling?
which handles better? 00-03 or 04+ ?
i have seen an average of .92Gs for the 00-03 and .88Gs for the 04+
what is going on? is this because of the softened up suspension?
i don't think one handles "better" than another, they just handle differently
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Originally Posted by 124Spider,Oct 14 2004, 09:27 PM
Wow, this is the first time I've ever heard someone say that an S2k understeers. My '04 certainly does not understeer, on the track or on the street (and I still have stock tires). It oversteers easily if I make a mistake (shame on me, not the car), but it is remarkably precise, in steering, shifting and suspension, and very predictable in any case.