***OFFICIAL manual driving skillz thread***
11-24-2008 | 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by patinum,Nov 24 2008, 10:56 AM
Every time I tried to practice left foot braking, I found out my left foot doesn't have the motor control yet. Then I went to a track day with some great instructors (former skip barber instructors). They said that most people who left foot brake do it wrong, and for those that do do it right don't gain that much speed from it. They said they've seen this through datalogging that most of the time, left foot braking is a wash.
Was thinking about it last night. I don't see how using your left foot to brake is going to gain you any time. When you H/T properly, you're slowing down and keeping the revs up to match your downshift... Why slow down with your other foot (and be unable to clutch to downshift while you're braking)?
11-24-2008 | 07:50 AM
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I rev-match and heel-toe.
The bike gets tracked, but the car doesn't so I voted "don't track/auto x".
I've had cars that needed to be double-clutched if you wanted to get into 1st of 2nd smoothly, but the S2000 does fine without.
The bike gets tracked, but the car doesn't so I voted "don't track/auto x".
I've had cars that needed to be double-clutched if you wanted to get into 1st of 2nd smoothly, but the S2000 does fine without.
11-24-2008 | 08:12 AM
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I've rev-matched since I started driving, and just recently got the hang of heel-toeing (smoothly). Heel-toe is mainly reserved for the track.
I don't really double clutch, it's somewhat pointless for a synchro box, unless you're going down to first, or want to be extra kind to it on a skipped gear downshift.
Left foot braking isn't something I've explored yet, nor am I at the level where it would be useful.
I don't really double clutch, it's somewhat pointless for a synchro box, unless you're going down to first, or want to be extra kind to it on a skipped gear downshift.
Left foot braking isn't something I've explored yet, nor am I at the level where it would be useful.
11-24-2008 | 09:04 AM
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I rev match and heel toe but I dont brake with my left foot because Im 6'3" and I cant get my left leg that far over without hitting the steering wheel maybe someday I will have a lower seat and begin working on that but for now Ill get by without it 
. I dont track/autocross, I touge daily 
. I dont track/autocross, I touge daily
11-24-2008 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by CKit,Nov 24 2008, 12:05 PM
Autocross. Often not enough time to downshift because the braking zone is so short and downshifting is offset by the sometimes inopportune upshifting point created.
I'm working on my left foot braking this winter to get "feel."
Will datalog test and tunes comparing LFB and traditional until it's "ready for prime time."
Sometimes you have to be slower to get faster.
For people who tend to overshoot their braking zones, the extra "heft" of LFB may actually lead to improved times even before the coordination is fully there.
I'm working on my left foot braking this winter to get "feel."
Will datalog test and tunes comparing LFB and traditional until it's "ready for prime time."
Sometimes you have to be slower to get faster.
For people who tend to overshoot their braking zones, the extra "heft" of LFB may actually lead to improved times even before the coordination is fully there.
11-24-2008 | 12:08 PM
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I don't how you people are able to heel-toe during daily driving with this car. In other cars heel toeing is much easier for me. But in the S2000, the pedal spacing requires the brake to be depressed a significant amount (way more braking force than required, unless you want to be rear ended) in order to be able to heel the gas pedal in a smooth fashion...
