wrx.... i cant stop thinking about it......
#41
I love my S2k! That said a WRX will beat an S from a dig every time. I have owned 2 WRX. The first was an 03 and the second an 06. I could do 0 - 60 in my O6 in like 4.8 sec (down pipe and cat back exhaust). I raced an SRT8 wagon in my O6 Wrx wagon and I killed him till I hit 3rd gear. An S does not have the pulling power of an SRT8 so I doubt that the S would really make up the difference in a 1/4 mile race. Let face it, if we wanted a 1/4 mile car most of us would not have bought an S. That said on a road course or auto cross our cars rock out of the box. It takes a crap ton of money to get a WRX to perform like our cars!
#42
I love my S2k! That said a WRX will beat an S from a dig every time. I have owned 2 WRX. The first was an 03 and the second an 06. I could do 0 - 60 in my O6 in like 4.8 sec (down pipe and cat back exhaust). I raced an SRT8 wagon in my O6 Wrx wagon and I killed him till I hit 3rd gear. An S does not have the pulling power of an SRT8 so I doubt that the S would really make up the difference in a 1/4 mile race. Let face it, if we wanted a 1/4 mile car most of us would not have bought an S. That said on a road course or auto cross our cars rock out of the box. It takes a crap ton of money to get a WRX to perform like our cars!
The s2k makes more hp than the wrx and weighs a lot less. The only thing that the wrx has a advantage on is a bit more tq. But because of the 5 speed and weight and lower hp it will surely lose.
#43
Like you said if you launch your car right. If you beat a wrx out of a dig it is because they did not launch their car right. Like stated above a wrx does not pull on the top. These cars only have the 1/4 mile and 0 to 60 times they do because of the killer launch. Proof look at the low trap speeds of the STI which has more hp and torque than an S.
#45
Just coming from an STi, when you said your buddy was making power even to 8k is very interesting, find out what hes tuned on, also tell your buddy to be careful with his transmission. WRX transmissions are known as "glass" transmissions. If you can post a pic up of his intake also.
#46
Just coming from an STi, when you said your buddy was making power even to 8k is very interesting, find out what hes tuned on, also tell your buddy to be careful with his transmission. WRX transmissions are known as "glass" transmissions. If you can post a pic up of his intake also.
#47
The gear ratio for 02-07 WRX's are the same, however from 04+ the gear thickness changed (RA width). Supposedly this would allow for greater durability, however the 06-07 models suffered from longer overall gearing (3.7 FD vs 3.9). The 2.5L engine with the additional torque made up for the longer gearing however this also added more stress to the transmission. Even worse, Subaru installed 17" 21lb wheels on the 06-07 models compared to the 16" 15lb wheels.
Regardless, even if the 06 driver has the right mods (intake/TMIC/turboback + dyno tuning) that would still not allow him to readily beat an S2000 from a roll. The stock TD04 turbo is just too small for the displacement and is very peaky. By the time he's switching gears at 6K RPM the power has already dropped significantly while the S2000 is just starting the fun and making more power until redline.
Finally, the S2000's weight, gearing and power curve will still beat a properly modded and tuned stock turbo 06 WRX. Now, if he's tuned on E85 then he might stand a chance. The only way for an 06 WRX to be competent in racing would be at least to upgrade to a STI turbo (VF39, VF43, etc) with a different FD (i.e.; 4.444) and to dump those heavy wheels- which is what I did.
Regardless, even if the 06 driver has the right mods (intake/TMIC/turboback + dyno tuning) that would still not allow him to readily beat an S2000 from a roll. The stock TD04 turbo is just too small for the displacement and is very peaky. By the time he's switching gears at 6K RPM the power has already dropped significantly while the S2000 is just starting the fun and making more power until redline.
Finally, the S2000's weight, gearing and power curve will still beat a properly modded and tuned stock turbo 06 WRX. Now, if he's tuned on E85 then he might stand a chance. The only way for an 06 WRX to be competent in racing would be at least to upgrade to a STI turbo (VF39, VF43, etc) with a different FD (i.e.; 4.444) and to dump those heavy wheels- which is what I did.
#48
Originally Posted by AP2 Rob' timestamp='1312147813' post='20833354
Just coming from an STi, when you said your buddy was making power even to 8k is very interesting, find out what hes tuned on, also tell your buddy to be careful with his transmission. WRX transmissions are known as "glass" transmissions. If you can post a pic up of his intake also.
#49
3.454 / 1.947 / 1.366 / 0.972 / 0.738 / 3.900FD - '02-'05 USDM WRX
3.454 / 1.947 / 1.366 / 0.972 / 0.738 / 3.700FD - '06-'07 USDM WRX
3.166 / 1.882 / 1.296 / 0.972 / 0.738 / 3.900FD - '08-current USDM WRX
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