S2000 Street Encounters Stories of on-the-road exploits and encounters.

S2000 vs LT1 SS from 35mph-70mph.... in 6th gear???

Thread Tools
 
Old 09-12-2002, 03:03 AM
  #1  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
Wisconsin S2k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Milwaukee Area
Posts: 9,792
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default S2000 vs LT1 SS from 35mph-70mph.... in 6th gear???

Out of pure boredom. I mean literally nothing to do while we were cruising.....

Here's the setup....

I have a passenger, as does my friend in the SS.

We are both in 6th gear, and floor it, racing from 35mph to 70mph. I would expect to get walked because of the low end torque of the SS... right?

WRONG!

I started walking him ever so slowly right away. By 70mph I had 1 1/2 car lengths on him. WTF? Where is all their low end torque? We tried the same thing in 5th gear from 30mph-60mph and it was almost the exact same situation.

Anyone got any idea why???
Old 09-12-2002, 04:49 AM
  #2  
Registered User
 
RD99SS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Swansea
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Gearing....50% overdrive in 6th for the camaro along with 3.42 gears if it is stock...what is your 6th gear along with rear gear ratio...hope this helps
Old 09-12-2002, 06:13 AM
  #3  
Sev
Registered User
 
Sev's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Montreal
Posts: 2,125
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Result in 6th gear isn't surpirsing as those cars have a really tall 6th gear to get good fuel economy on the highways....

5th gear is however surprising.
Old 09-12-2002, 06:43 AM
  #4  
Registered User
 
fueledbymetal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Lexington Park
Posts: 65
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I'm surprised he didn't stall being in 6th at 35mph. I'm not sure if the LT1 Camaro has the same gearing as the LT1 corvette I used to have, but I was only at 1500 rpm in 6th at 67 mph - He was probably below 1000 at 35
Old 09-12-2002, 09:47 AM
  #5  
Registered User
 
Moore94Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Columbus
Posts: 44
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Are you sure this happened? 6th gear at 35 mph is under 800 RPM in an F-body. If that didn't stall the car it would certainly lug the living hell out of it. I've stalled my car while rolling before. Its the first stick shift I've ever driven, and I hit 6th instead of 4th getting on the freeway. Your friend started at a lower RPM than he idles at. I don't even shift into 6th untill 70+ because it lugs the engine so bad. 5th gear at 30 is under 1000 RPM, so you run into the same thing. Torque can't help you when you start a roll on race with the engine below idle speed. An S2k has much steeper gears, so you're not as low in the power band. The way you describe the races the SS didn't even hit 2k RPM .
Old 09-12-2002, 01:50 PM
  #6  
Registered User
 
Russ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Land of the landeaus
Posts: 2,956
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Not sure about the LT1 but my LS1 would be around 1800 rpm doing 70 mph so I can't recall EVER having it at that low a speed in 6th. My guess would be it would be like trying to pull a tree out of a swamp with a go-kart. A fun race but essentially, meaningless.
Old 09-12-2002, 02:36 PM
  #7  
Registered User

 
jerrypeterson's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Bellevue, WA
Posts: 7,768
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
Default

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Russ
[B]Not sure about the LT1 but my LS1 would be around 1800 rpm doing 70 mph so I can't recall EVER having it at that low a speed in 6th.
Old 09-12-2002, 03:36 PM
  #8  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
Wisconsin S2k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Milwaukee Area
Posts: 9,792
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Maybe we started closer to 40mph then. I know it was right around there... and we shut down at about 75mph (i was still pulling on him).

I, too, figured it was the tall 6th gear, which is why we also did a low rpm 5th gear punch. Though I didn't walk him as much, I still slowly pulled from 30mph to about 60mph....

It is interesting to see how gearing plays a role.

Wonder what all the mags would think of that experiment and the "no-torque" S2000. It's so convenient they leave out the effect of gearing...
Old 09-13-2002, 06:46 PM
  #9  
Registered User
 
qwerty22's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: na
Posts: 197
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Wis go race one more time for us plz from 35-70 in 4th gear this time, and tell us the result
Old 09-13-2002, 07:45 PM
  #10  
Registered User
 
s2kyle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: San Antonio, Tx
Posts: 689
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Just curious, if the camaro was a 96' or 97'.


Quick Reply: S2000 vs LT1 SS from 35mph-70mph.... in 6th gear???



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:32 PM.