RX-8 vs S2000
05-20-2006 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by S2K:-),May 20 2006, 02:22 PM
Handling is scarry close to being better than our... seriously.
05-20-2006 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by mic_crispy,May 20 2006, 02:45 PM
i had one, with suspension work done too.. and my g/f has had two of them. for the price, you cannot beat them at all. great cars. and yes, they handle extremely well for what they are.
to that little car 
Can't wait to see how we compare in an auto-x soon.
05-20-2006 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by S2K:-),May 20 2006, 12:22 PM
I went to a Mazda dealer ship with my cousin and I drove my s2000. My cousin was looking at RX-8's when I said my car would anaialate one... The sales guy LAUGHED!!!! He said
"In that??? An RX-8 will beat you on the corners, striaghts, and saftey ratings. If you roll you'll die immediatly!"
I was in utter shock! I told him "My car is faster, out performs and looks better than an RX-8 on every aspect. Use the internet and if you ever see an s2000 lose to one, call me. (I then wrote my number on his business card and handed it back)
He said, "I find that hard to believe, you'll be hearing from me"
Needless to say we left that dealership and he bought his car somewhere else the next day
. Off topic but it's a red Mazda3 hatch. Looks really good and is fairly quick. Handling is scarry close to being better than our... seriously.
"In that??? An RX-8 will beat you on the corners, striaghts, and saftey ratings. If you roll you'll die immediatly!"
I was in utter shock! I told him "My car is faster, out performs and looks better than an RX-8 on every aspect. Use the internet and if you ever see an s2000 lose to one, call me. (I then wrote my number on his business card and handed it back)
He said, "I find that hard to believe, you'll be hearing from me"
Needless to say we left that dealership and he bought his car somewhere else the next day
. Off topic but it's a red Mazda3 hatch. Looks really good and is fairly quick. Handling is scarry close to being better than our... seriously.
05-20-2006 | 06:42 PM
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yea they're pretty slow 
this rx8 was messing with me when i still had my mr2 turbo with bpu's....i pulled him pretty hard, upshifting at 5500 rpm (7000 being redline) 
even my old dc2 with i/e/h could keep up with one or beat it depending on driver.
the rx8's do have a very nice chassis though; they're just severely underpowered.
this rx8 was messing with me when i still had my mr2 turbo with bpu's....i pulled him pretty hard, upshifting at 5500 rpm (7000 being redline) even my old dc2 with i/e/h could keep up with one or beat it depending on driver.
the rx8's do have a very nice chassis though; they're just severely underpowered.
05-20-2006 | 09:16 PM
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sorry for asking this but i remember reading an arguement over the rx-8 being most hp per liter of an NA engine. I forget why, but does anyone know why it's not technically a 1.3 L and more of like 2.7L (I can't remember exactly how many L it was considered)... somewhere around there?
05-20-2006 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by mintswack,May 21 2006, 05:16 AM
sorry for asking this but i remember reading an arguement over the rx-8 being most hp per liter of an NA engine. I forget why, but does anyone know why it's not technically a 1.3 L and more of like 2.7L (I can't remember exactly how many L it was considered)... somewhere around there?
05-21-2006 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Fanman,May 20 2006, 09:31 PM
It is an 80 ci rotary motor (1.3L) but because it's stroke/cycle are completely diffferent than a regular piston engine, racing has classified it as a 2.6L-3.0L. Not sure how they came up with that equation. If it was allowed to compete in a 1 liter class, it would be absolutely unfair, and rule all.
well actually the s2000 holds that title of most hp per liter to answer mintswack's but if all else fails try http://auto.howstuffworks.com/rotary-engine.htm you'd be suprised how much info is on that site about anything
05-21-2006 | 05:18 PM
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howstuffworks.com is friggin awesome, and yeah, for some reason Mazda dealers seem to think the RX8 is the ruler of the world, only met one good dealer who just sighed and said, it's a great car, but I do miss the RX7, here, let me show you the Mazdaspeed Miata. Good man.
05-21-2006 | 05:22 PM
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Displacement is typically the volume of air displaced by the cylinder during one revolution of the crankshaft. Multiply this number by the number of cylinders and you can calculate total engine displacement. Ours happens to be about 2.0L or 2.2L
Each moving chamber of a rotary engine (the equivalent of a cylinder in a piston engine) also displaces a certain amount of air per crankshaft revolution. The trick part is how to measure it. Due to the eccentric output shaft design (an eccentric crankshaft), each chamber actually cycles twice per crankshaft revolution, effectively making it a 2.6L engine.
Each moving chamber of a rotary engine (the equivalent of a cylinder in a piston engine) also displaces a certain amount of air per crankshaft revolution. The trick part is how to measure it. Due to the eccentric output shaft design (an eccentric crankshaft), each chamber actually cycles twice per crankshaft revolution, effectively making it a 2.6L engine.
05-21-2006 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by slimjim8201,May 21 2006, 07:22 PM
Displacement is typically the volume of air displaced by the cylinder during one revolution of the crankshaft. Multiply this number by the number of cylinders and you can calculate total engine displacement. Ours happens to be about 2.0L or 2.2L
Each moving chamber of a rotary engine (the equivalent of a cylinder in a piston engine) also displaces a certain amount of air per crankshaft revolution. The trick part is how to measure it. Due to the eccentric output shaft design (an eccentric crankshaft), each chamber actually cycles twice per crankshaft revolution, effectively making it a 2.6L engine.
Each moving chamber of a rotary engine (the equivalent of a cylinder in a piston engine) also displaces a certain amount of air per crankshaft revolution. The trick part is how to measure it. Due to the eccentric output shaft design (an eccentric crankshaft), each chamber actually cycles twice per crankshaft revolution, effectively making it a 2.6L engine.
In addition, each rotor has three chambers that fire every chamber rotation. In comparison, a four-stroke piston engine fires every other stroke. So in one rotor revolution, you have 6 combustion events for a 2-rotor engine, whereas a four-stroke V6 fires just 3 times each complete piston cycle, or crankshaft revolution. However, there are only two combustion events (one per rotor) per crankshaft revolution in the rotary.
A rotary engine is an oddity for sure. Some organizations rate it as 2.6 because each chamber fires twice as often as a piston engine (each chamber fires each rotor revolution, vs. each cylinder firing every other revolution in a piston engine.). Either way, there is no direct comparison between four-stroke piston engines and rotary displacements.