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Old 08-05-2005, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by dstanfield1977,Aug 5 2005, 09:37 AM
Why do you say that?

The car has a great racing heritage.

The SRT4 is a huge bang for the buck.

Do you say that because its embarrassing to have a 20K econo car meet or beat the S2K's performance.

I bet the replacement SRT4 (or whatever they call it) will spank the 2K.
since when did this become a "SRT4 20k car vs S2000 32k car" thread? why, because he doesn't like SRT4's?

i hate arguments like this. why?

the SRT4 is equal to the S2000 in straight line, and is BETTER than the S2000 when it comes to getting groceries. that's it. so how does a "20k econo car beat the S2k's performance"? when you say PERFORMANCE, that means more than just a straight line. and the S2000 hands the SRT4 it's ASS in every other performance category without even breaking a sweat.

by the way, the SRT4 does not have a direct replacement. the two cars dodge created to "replace" it are slower than the SRT4 was.


so yeah, i'm so jealous of the 20k econo car that can equal a stock S2000 in a striaght line, or go faster in a straight line for cheaper.

well what about other categories?

cargo space (ie, groceries) go to the SRT4.

straightline? equal when stock.

cornering? S2000

braking? S2000

auto-x? S2000

off-camber or slalom? S2000

resale? S2000 (the SRT4 is projected to be worth only $5000-$6000 after 5 years)

reliability? S2000 (based on problems per vehicle)

looks? S2000

sports car? S2000

convertible? S2000


etc etc.

yeah. i'm real jealous of the SRT4 econobox. it's a sport compact car meant for a younger crowd who is interested in straight line performance. in that regard, it's a good car. but to say it's the "best bang for the buck" in overall performance is incorrect.
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Originally Posted by Fusion ZO6,Aug 3 2005, 12:12 PM
I'd still rather have an S2K over an SRT4.
i couldnt have said it better myself, but they get their props
Old 08-06-2005, 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Fusion ZO6,Aug 4 2005, 10:01 AM
Joe might have gotten a couple of the details wrong (about what gear he was in) but that's besides the point. I was behind them and they were going that fast.
Thanks Seth. I did leave some details out by accident. This thread turned into SRT4 vs S2K. Pretty fun to follow, keep it coming guys I dont mind.

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Old 08-06-2005, 04:52 AM
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That's the problem with the Neon/SRT4, they always get looked down just because they're cheaper. Some people just don't want to give them any credit which is too bad.
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i hate the SRT4 (and a large part of this is the fact that too many morons own one).

however, FOR WHAT IT IS, it's a good car. for straight line performance, it's easily the best bang for the buck. it hauls.

but again, for those of us that want more out of a car than just straight line speed, it's not.
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Originally Posted by Wisconsin S2k,Aug 6 2005, 11:55 AM
however, FOR WHAT IT IS, it's a good car. for straight line performance, it's easily the best bang for the buck. it hauls.

but again, for those of us that want more out of a car than just straight line speed, it's not.
Exactly...for what it is, it's a good car, but what it is (SRT-4) is not even the same category as the S2K. They are apples/oranges in almost every category other than straightline speed.
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I had an 04 SRT4 (same as 05 basically, LSD and the higher HP rating) and took an S2000 from a dig pretty easy. I still traded it in on the S though since the SRT can't handle the turns I think the SRT4 would take a stock S easy in all situations, from a dig or from a high roll.
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Originally Posted by Vanos954,Aug 6 2005, 12:26 PM
I had an 04 SRT4 (same as 05 basically, LSD and the higher HP rating) and took an S2000 from a dig pretty easy. I still traded it in on the S though since the SRT can't handle the turns I think the SRT4 would take a stock S easy in all situations, from a dig or from a high roll.
you raced a poor driver in an S2000 if you took him pretty easy.

from a dig they are a driver's race. from any high speed roll it's all S2000.
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Originally Posted by Wisconsin S2k,Aug 5 2005, 05:33 PM
since when did this become a "SRT4 20k car vs S2000 32k car" thread? why, because he doesn't like SRT4's?

i hate arguments like this. why?

the SRT4 is equal to the S2000 in straight line, and is BETTER than the S2000 when it comes to getting groceries. that's it. so how does a "20k econo car beat the S2k's performance"? when you say PERFORMANCE, that means more than just a straight line. and the S2000 hands the SRT4 it's ASS in every other performance category without even breaking a sweat.

by the way, the SRT4 does not have a direct replacement. the two cars dodge created to "replace" it are slower than the SRT4 was.


so yeah, i'm so jealous of the 20k econo car that can equal a stock S2000 in a striaght line, or go faster in a straight line for cheaper.

well what about other categories?

cargo space (ie, groceries) go to the SRT4.

straightline? equal when stock.

cornering? S2000

braking? S2000

auto-x? S2000

off-camber or slalom? S2000

resale? S2000 (the SRT4 is projected to be worth only $5000-$6000 after 5 years)

reliability? S2000 (based on problems per vehicle)

looks? S2000

sports car? S2000

convertible? S2000


etc etc.

yeah. i'm real jealous of the SRT4 econobox. it's a sport compact car meant for a younger crowd who is interested in straight line performance. in that regard, it's a good car. but to say it's the "best bang for the buck" in overall performance is incorrect.
Blah blah.....

I would never buy one, but go the track and see, don't suprised when you get embarrassed, its no slouch around the corners either.
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Originally Posted by dstanfield1977,Aug 6 2005, 05:42 PM
Blah blah.....

I would never buy one, but go the track and see, don't suprised when you get embarrassed, its no slouch around the corners either.
again, you fail to miss the point. i dont care if the SRT4 is or isn't faster than me in a straight line. even then i beat more SRT4's than I lose to, whether I was stock or not. (i have never lost to a stock SRT4) But when one beats me, i am neither surprised, nor embarassed. I know how fast they can be made to go in a straight line for very little money.

And "no slouch around the corners". OK? Is that why dodge once again had to create a special very limited version of the neon just to be competitive in street stock? (the ACR) Is that why, at regional and national levels, the SRT4 is nothing more than a mid-tier D-stock performer, while the S2000 is making a good run at the vettes that have dominated A-stock in years past?

Sorry, compared to an S2000, it's a fat kid chasing a cupcake around a corner.


but again, why did you even bring up this entire argument? even though it's 2 completely different classes of car? oh yeah, because you said we should be "embarassed" to lose to one and we are just hating because a 20k modded neon can beat us in a straight line in our 32k roadster.


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