My S vs M3
04-15-2005, 03:54 PM
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The only way to kill an M3 is on twisty stuff, straight roads there is no way that a stock S can even compete. Come braking and taking a tight bend and it is all over for the M3 driver IMO.
04-15-2005, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by derryck,Apr 15 2005, 03:48 PM
LOL...who told you that, the tooth fairy. The M3 will eat an S2000 alive stock for stock at any speed. The S might keep it close in first gear but given equal drivers the S2000 doesn't stand a chance. The M3 has power everywhere compared to the S2000 thanks to a much torquier motor and a substantial hp advantage despite the weight difference. Do you understand that the S2000 traps around 100mph in the quarter mile at about 13.7-13.9 with a very good driver where the M3 is hitting closer to 108 mph in almost a full second less...that's a BIG difference. I suppose it is possible he had the girly transmission and was in auto mode or something but short of that....
I don't think you've frequented the members rides and vids on M3forum lately, b/c there are more than a few members that have hit 13.0 flat stock with SMG cars. Handful of 13.3's bone stock. Of course you have to be in S6 / DSC off / sport on though.
04-15-2005, 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by S2oooNvegas,Apr 15 2005, 10:14 PM
First run is a 13.2 at 107 / he did run 13.0 that day. Bone stock (SMG)
Second vid is Mathew's 12.2 at 113 N/A. (6MT)
Third run is Scott's AA Supercharged (SMG) M3. 12.1 at 117.
04-16-2005, 12:25 PM
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My 2004 M3 has SMG, no way is it a pussy transmission. It takes skill to get SMG down the way I rally my car.
04-16-2005, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by little Chris,Apr 15 2005, 05:20 AM
E46.
He was trying, I've been told that the M3 will eat the S over 100mph but up to then you stay pretty even. My S is stock but I have the JDM with a higher engine pressure and I run on high octaine fuel (97RON) I'm sure if the Dual carrige way was empty when we pulled on to it he would of started gaining over 100mph.
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He was trying, I've been told that the M3 will eat the S over 100mph but up to then you stay pretty even. My S is stock but I have the JDM with a higher engine pressure and I run on high octaine fuel (97RON) I'm sure if the Dual carrige way was empty when we pulled on to it he would of started gaining over 100mph.
Chris
04-16-2005, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by derryck,Apr 16 2005, 12:25 PM
If you are truly arguing that it takes MORE skill to drive an SMG than a manual then don't get upset when you get laughed at.
Honestly if I traded in my 04 M3 for an 05. I'd have a hard time choosing again.
04-19-2005, 08:41 PM
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They will offer a six speed, you can count on it. They are making a six speed M5 exclusively for the North American market after just about every M5 owner in the US threw a major hissy fit........if THAT car can get a six speed, rest assured that the smaller, cheaper M3 will be similarly equipped.