S2oooNvegas

quite frankly i could care less kayvan.

when youve seen what i have, you be standing squarely in my shoes. as i told yellow last nite, which he interestingly failed to mention, i already raced an sc'd ap1. and 3 geared ap1s. i havent lost to an ap1 yet, only s2000 ive lost to, was steveL. and he made 330ish wheel. chalk that one up kiddo, and please no name calling. im not the ignorant one here. hell you live close by...bring it!
hehe pinnochio. thats a good one, i wont go into details about wood.

lates

blastr17

Dave,

I laugh at every word you type...and anyone that believes this moron, I laugh at your words as well

Wisconsin S2k

i laugh at the site of dave's pinnochio nose going up his ass.

bizzo

define "faster"

Johnny Sack

i have pulled on every AP2 i have ever raced. all 5 of em.

ASMspec

The burden of proof lies with the individual or companies involved that make the claims. Thats the bottom line here. In this case it would be S2000nVegas. He has to show to the s2ki community proof without a doubt that his car is faster or a freak S2k. Its not hard. A simple $20 fee at some raceway to run the quarter with times and your good to go.

I remember seeing videos of Wisconsin's car back in the day and they were good videos and he earned my respect with those videos. He showed everything on top of the fact that he was taking over Wesmasters position as the kill story hero with proof. Damn that was a long time ago. But you wouldnt know anything about Wesmaster would you? He even had owners of other cars coming over here giving him props and wanting a rematch and such..

As far as Steve C is concerned, I have no beef with him and he right now is your number one skeptic. Steve tells it like it is and he has done that with everyone not just you. Hes been doing it for years.

I have only read two of your threads and it seems like a lot of the newbies are behind you but the older members/owners are calling.. I wonder why that is?

As far as your claim about your buddies S2k being a 13.6 second car and where that leaves you, well right off the bat we dont know your buddy runs CONSISTENT mid 13s at all. Thats just coming from you. Maybe he is or maybe he isnt. Whos to say he is a CONSISTENT 14.5 second car? Where would that put you then? You would be a 14.0 second car right? I am just knit picking here but I want to see at a minimum of 3 timeslips, not just one. YOU HAVE TO SHOW CONSISTENCY. If you do then this all goes away...

S2oooNvegas

eww, your scaring people here, dont go all homo on us now.

S2oooNvegas

[QUOTE=JsAP1,Nov 18 2005, 12:43 PM]
I have only read two of your threads and it seems like a lot of the newbies are behind you but the older members/owners are calling..

ASMspec

[QUOTE=S2oooNvegas,Nov 18 2005, 12:59 PM] i like how this website is used to define someones experience, just because some old guy with a bunch of slow torqueless ap1 experience and zero ap2 experience is calling BS, that makes it valid?

steve c

Another lie. This is a concept I am actually a bit familiar with having run some of my cars in Denver at Bandimere elevation 6000 feet and those same cars at Gateway elevation < 600 feet. The converters have in my experience always been a bit optimistic, but there are so many variables in the equataion, who really knows. F/I cars of course throwing things way off the mark as they make their own atmosphere.

The reality is that conversions are a bit of a grey area, temperature and dew point needing to be factored in, but here is a good simple conversion:

Las Vegas Motor Speedway is at 2100 above sea level.


http://www.wallaceracing.com/altitudecorrection.htm

To convert your timeslip ET and MPH to sea level. Multiply applicable factor times your ET or MPH.

(Example: You ran a 14.4 @ 103 MPH at 5000' elevation track. The correction factors are .9367 and 1.0661 for 5000'. (14.4 * .9367) = 13.50 , (103 * 1.0661) = 109.80 MPH. So the correct timeslip would be 13.50 @ 109.80 MPH at sea level)


Altitude above Sea Level (Feet) Elapsed Time Factor (ET) Trap Speed Factor (MPH)

2100 .9757 1.0255


14.0 X .9757 = 13.6598 or 13.7 rounding up @ 105.625.


Even these numbers would be a stretch and of course very, very unlikely. But you have to wonder why this guy who says he owns 2 drag cars is a master mechanic with years of drag racing experience (yet does not understand the concept of bracket racing) would not know how to arrive at a proper conversion.

My guess, he pulled that number out of his ass much as he has every other number about his car. By the time this blowhard really does make it to a track -- if ever -- I have no doubts he will have installed a 50 or 100 shot and not tell any of us. The sad part here is he has lied to much in the past that there is very little chance he will ever be honest in the future.