MugenAp2S2k

Yeah it was a gunmetal looking silver color dude gave me a
light turn's green guy floors it with a big oh kool aid smile i was like awwwwwwwwww drooling all over the car

TimN

[QUOTE=S|2ocK,Aug 20 2006, 06:08 PM]I wonder if he was just messing with me or he really couldnt pull?

ShocK

European horsepower calculations are the conservative degree in every aspect heh. My buddies 2002 M3 put 330 to the ground stock and I belevie they say it has that at the crank haha. I used to work at a dyno shop and this is pretty typical with Euro cars. Its all in the calculations IMO but I'd say Porsche does this to cover their butts incase one is a little slower than it should be.

r26372

The 0-60 and 0-100 numbers are greatly influenced by the tires that are about as wide as the back end and the fact its balanced 60% to the rear of the vehicle. The top end numbers are improved b/c of the low drag. So, having "only" 355 hp is actually quite effective when the rest of the car is in line with it.

Adding a S/C to our cars may put it above a Carrera S from a hp/weight ratio. But, good luck getting any traction with our tires from a stop. Then up top the added drag comes into play and still, I would think, give the advantage significantly the the Carrera S.

I could see a S/C S keeping up or even beating the Carrera S from say 20-120, but beyond that I don't think its going to be pretty. From a stop, not close. Full second better to 60, especially if AWD because that's predictable.

Stock S vs Carrera 4s, not close, nothing adds up in favor of our cars, drag, tires, weight distribution, power, etc.

I've raced a base Carrera Coupe on highway. I have gears, same intake as you, same vafc and he was slowly gaining from behind from I believe it was 60-120. Never passed me, but he was gaining and would have. Now give him another 60 hp and he would have blowned by me. I beat non-geared S's by many many car lengths in similar scenarios. My guess is the guy wasn't really giving it all he had.

TimN

Very good point about the traction produced by the massive rear tires and rearward weight bias. It's almost impossible to lose traction even from a dig, only by massive abuse of the driveline is it possible to break the tires loose.

Another factor that I believe contributes is that the amount of torque across such a wide rev range and very high traction make this car easy for even a schmuck to accelerate very rapidly ... even a poor driver who does not optimize shifting to get the most out of the car can often do quite well. The s2k is a car that rewards very good drivers, and really punishes those that don't know what they are doing. Those of you who can make the s2k accelerate to its full potential are really applying some skill to it! The guy in the Carrera next to you might not have an ounce of skill, but he's in a car that doesn't require him to ... as long as he's going in a straight line

This is one of the reasons quite a few dealers still call the 911 - and especially the Turbos - "doctor killers", people who have more money than they have sense will often buy these things and learn the hard way that they are not very good drivers. It's easy to make them go fast - anyone can do it - but (even with all the electronic aids, and even AWD) controlling one once the road isn't a straight line can require a great deal of skill. Even folks with a lot of skill who have little experience with a rear-engined car can get in trouble very quickly. Any of you s2k jockeys who really know how to drive might be very surprised by how well you would do against a 911 with an inexperienced/poor driver on a road course!

ghoonk

This calls to mind the rather unfortunate incident of the Lambo that flipped and burned. People really should have to complete a driving programme by each of the manufacturers before they receive the keys to their desired car.

s2k_jay

that would be 10 car spaces lol

Stuttgart951

Im with stupid.

Fanboi-ism.