Wheel width effect on driving characteristics given the same tire size
#11
The 245 will have a more desirable profile, but if ultimate grip is what your after then 255 makes sense, as long as your factoring in consistent tire compounds. The rubber makeup plays just a much a part if not more then the width of a tire, certainly if comparing just 10mmm difference. Both tires are within the 9" wheel recommended width. The 255 is going to be pretty square and have a little less response, wile the 245 will have that slight desirable stretch. But that’s given the same tire brand/manufacture. Obviously if you throw on a single ply sidewall 245, compared to a dual ply sidewall 255 on the same width rim, its likely the wider 255 is going to deflect less and provide more firm response. So you got to look at it from all factors and weigh out the compromises.
#12
Thread Starter
I went from the S-04 at 215/245 to RE-11 at 225/255 and definitely still noticed increase response overall. I may switch back to 215/245 for my next set. Might be more efficient as I am sticking to stock alignment until I hit certain lap times at Laguna and Thunderhill.
#13
interesting topic guys. Here is some video I took while testing some tires and theories. 235/40R17 Toyo R1R vs 255/40R17 Dunlop Z1 Star Spec
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdaRJ...BkQMxupo17OWOA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxJwc...BkQMxupo17OWOA
Keep in mind that this was a test done in an autocross environment. We reach peak lateral G a lot quicker and more frequent than on the track. Transient response and the time it takes to get to total lateral load is very important.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdaRJ...BkQMxupo17OWOA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxJwc...BkQMxupo17OWOA
Keep in mind that this was a test done in an autocross environment. We reach peak lateral G a lot quicker and more frequent than on the track. Transient response and the time it takes to get to total lateral load is very important.
#14
Originally Posted by boyguan' timestamp='1360781020' post='22335328
Now my question is would you rather do a 255 or 245 on a 9 rim?
Many non staggered run the 255 but does the 245 provide faster times?
Many non staggered run the 255 but does the 245 provide faster times?
I went from the S-04 at 215/245 to RE-11 at 225/255 and definitely still noticed increase response overall. I may switch back to 215/245 for my next set. Might be more efficient as I am sticking to stock alignment until I hit certain lap times at Laguna and Thunderhill.
#15
Thread Starter
interesting topic guys. Here is some video I took while testing some tires and theories. 235/40R17 Toyo R1R vs 255/40R17 Dunlop Z1 Star Spec
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdaRJ...BkQMxupo17OWOA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxJwc...BkQMxupo17OWOA
Keep in mind that this was a test done in an autocross environment. We reach peak lateral G a lot quicker and more frequent than on the track. Transient response and the time it takes to get to total lateral load is very important.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdaRJ...BkQMxupo17OWOA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxJwc...BkQMxupo17OWOA
Keep in mind that this was a test done in an autocross environment. We reach peak lateral G a lot quicker and more frequent than on the track. Transient response and the time it takes to get to total lateral load is very important.
I found it really interesting that even F1 tires have a noticeable deflection that can even be seen at speed if you are really paying attention. Even with the incredibly stiff sidewalls they likely have, the deflection is still pretty clear to see with their giant sidewalls.
I can't wait to pick up a Hero3 so I can shoot some videos like these at higher frame rates!
#16
You cant lose by running near the same rim width as tire section width ie; 10" rim for a 255. 9.5" on a 245. 9" for a 235 etc... That is going to be optimum but not always logistically practical. Something to aim for though.
#17