track worthy tires treadwear 250 & up
01-30-2009, 07:44 PM
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[quote name='krnmike' date='Nov 28 2008, 07:21 PM'] there's obviously a huge price gap different between the 250 and the 200 treadwear tires (along with the 245 & 255 width tires size wise).
temperatures have obviously gone down (atleast here in socal) and my driving level isn't good enough to make the best use with r comps or treadwear 200 and lower tires @ the track. so I figure I should save some money and go ahead with the higher treadwear tires (which, in general, are cheaper in price). I still want to push the tires a bit and get the grip (neglecting the alignment & suspension complexions).
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temperatures have obviously gone down (atleast here in socal) and my driving level isn't good enough to make the best use with r comps or treadwear 200 and lower tires @ the track. so I figure I should save some money and go ahead with the higher treadwear tires (which, in general, are cheaper in price). I still want to push the tires a bit and get the grip (neglecting the alignment & suspension complexions).
some background info..
01-30-2009, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by AnthonyD1978' date='Dec 5 2008, 10:36 AM
01-30-2009, 11:28 PM
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Treadware rating is a made up number. Tire manufacturers are allowed to decide what it means for their own line of tires. A 200-rated Toyo is not necessarily going to have the same wear characteristics as a 200-rated Kumho.
I'd think three track weekends is easy for most tires out there, even most R compounds. But holding up under the heat and stress of track use is going to be most important, over time. Some street tires are just going to come apart in chunks.
I run Toyo RA1's for 30-34 heat cycles, which is 8-10 track days -- and then also for street use. I used to run BFGoodrich g-force T/A KDs for double that amount of time, at least. They'd typically last me a dozen track days and a year's worth of street driving.
And the BFGoodriches were very good performers, although the window of when they're good during a session is a lot more specific than with R-compounds. But I was within 2 seconds of my best RA1 times on the BFGoodriches, which isn't bad at all considering how long they'd last.
I'd think three track weekends is easy for most tires out there, even most R compounds. But holding up under the heat and stress of track use is going to be most important, over time. Some street tires are just going to come apart in chunks.
I run Toyo RA1's for 30-34 heat cycles, which is 8-10 track days -- and then also for street use. I used to run BFGoodrich g-force T/A KDs for double that amount of time, at least. They'd typically last me a dozen track days and a year's worth of street driving.
And the BFGoodriches were very good performers, although the window of when they're good during a session is a lot more specific than with R-compounds. But I was within 2 seconds of my best RA1 times on the BFGoodriches, which isn't bad at all considering how long they'd last.
02-04-2009, 02:53 PM
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RE01- Had them for 3 track days (summer months at Willow springs and Cali Speedway) They lasted me 10k miles total with those track days included. I replaced them when I had major camber wear in the rears.
Falken 615's - Way less money. 4k miles and a day at buttonwillow (cold) and they are showing minimal wear. I expect them to last about the same, maybe better since its colder now.
Grip wise, not sure yet, I haven't done an apples to apples comparison, but I did find a use for the extra $200 bucks.
My next set will be the D1* Spec or the above mentioned Federals.
GL
Falken 615's - Way less money. 4k miles and a day at buttonwillow (cold) and they are showing minimal wear. I expect them to last about the same, maybe better since its colder now.
Grip wise, not sure yet, I haven't done an apples to apples comparison, but I did find a use for the extra $200 bucks.
My next set will be the D1* Spec or the above mentioned Federals.
GL
02-04-2009, 03:38 PM
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has anyone tried the khumo xs yet?? I've been waiting on some feedback on those but haven't seen anything....
Also... I stay away from the 615s now. They're old news and I feel there are better tires available for similar prices. Z1 star specs, RE01Rs. You can't really listen to what a lot of people say about tires though that aren't "veterans" I guess.... you get Joe Shmoe saying oh yeah the Fuzion ZRi is an awesome tire on the track!!!!1139 when in actuality, I can't believe I ever put that tire on any wheels I own... (BTW if you ever think of getting this tire for ANY reason, do yourself a favor and don't)
Also... I stay away from the 615s now. They're old news and I feel there are better tires available for similar prices. Z1 star specs, RE01Rs. You can't really listen to what a lot of people say about tires though that aren't "veterans" I guess.... you get Joe Shmoe saying oh yeah the Fuzion ZRi is an awesome tire on the track!!!!1139 when in actuality, I can't believe I ever put that tire on any wheels I own... (BTW if you ever think of getting this tire for ANY reason, do yourself a favor and don't)
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