PlatypusMan

Yo terry! Im still gonna listen to u lol, I just want to understand the changes I'm making and why when the time comes that guy never responded with those ball joints BTW

slowd16

its the weekend. some people have lives lol

TTMartin

They are running higher camber up front, because running a stiff front bar and no rear bar causes them to have to reduce the grip in the rear so the car does not have excessive understeer.

The 30mm Tanabe rear bar you were running is to stiff for a Saner bar and a square set-up. But, given that your front springs a 3K stiffer than your rears, I think you'd be fine running an OEM bar in the rear.

'09S2K

Your car is setup very interestingly. Front shocks on FULL stiff? 3kg front spring rate bias? Front sway bar on full stiff? Rear sway bar disconnected? Rear shocks on full soft?? It sounds like you are really desperately trying to get rid of the oversteer

My suggestion is soften up your front shocks a bit, stiffen up your rears a bit, connect the rear bar, and learn how to drive it and don't focus too much more on tuning it. Playing with all that stuff will just take your focus away from driving, and you'll always be blaming some portion of your car rather than the driver error that is most likely occurring. No offense intended.

Also, I don't believe any shocks are supposed to be set at full stiff.

I am running KWV3's, 12/10 spring rates, 255 square, stock sway bars (both connected), -3.3 camber square, on RS3's.

robinson

My front shocks are on full stiff, swaybar on full stiff, high front spring bias, lower( not full soft) rear shocks and no rear bar.

I don't see much wrong with what the OP did to make his car drivable. Keep playing with the rear rebound to fine tune rear grip.

IntegraR0064

It sounds like you don't autocross your car - autocrossing requires a much higher front roll stiffness than driving on track does because of the slaloms. His setup sounds reasonable, although I do agree that setting shocks all the way stiff or soft is typically not a great idea, but depending on the shock it can be fine.

TTMartin

It requires much higher roll stiffness front and rear because of the slaloms.
A car giving up rear camber to make up for the lack of rear stiffness, can probably obtain better performance with a different set-up.

PlatypusMan

Well first off, the reason it was full stiff front and full soft rear was because I was prematurely oveesteering. I have no problem controling the car but when I know I should be able to take a corner faster I made extreme adjustments to see if I could get it to understeer at all. I intend on adjusting the stiffness of both front and rear to find a nice balance. I was merely posting on here to get feed back if there was anything I should consider doing IE more camber up front/less in rear, or stiffer springs up front etc. I appreciate all the posts from what it sounds like my set up is not all that abnormal which means all the homework I did was well spent

PlatypusMan

Btw if anyone was curious I'm running the DGR coilovers which are amazing