Spring rates
08-08-2004, 09:11 AM
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Spring rates
I'm searched out... 
Maybe someone can school me... I'm looking for spring rates on the Eibach Pro-Kit and Ground-controls...
I don't intend on tracking my daily driver so I'm looking for something to eliminate some wheel-gap, and keep the same ride.
Everyone's opinion is subject to their perspective and perception of "ride quality". So, I figure the best way to figure this for myself is to study spring rates.
(I suppose "progressive rate" springs are not something typically listed as a static rate.)
Here's what I've found: (and if anyone can contribute please do)
OEM Springs: EDIT
NOTES: http://www.s2000.com/2004.php
OEM:
00-01 - Fr: 218(3.9) - Rr: 291(5.2)
02-03 - Fr: 240(4.3) - Rr: 230(4.1) <<est.
2004 (this is a tough one...)
If calculated against 00-01 rates (based on quote above)
Fr: 233(4.16) - Rr: 262(4.68) (218 - 7%= 233) (291 - 10%= 262)
If calculated against 02-03 rates
Fr: 256(4.57) - Rr: 207(3.7) (probably incorrect)
KG/mm sport:
Fr: 398(7.0) - Rr: 448(8.0)
Neuspeed:
Fr: 280(5.0) - Rr: 215(3.8)
Tein S-Tech:
Fr: 297(5.3) - Rr: 364(6.5)
Espelir Active Super Down
Fr: 313.6(5.5) - Rr: 392(7.0)
Eibach Pro-Kit EDIT
Fr: 262(4.67) - Rr: 342(6.1) < Thanks s2ka !
Eibach Ground-Control
??? (build to spec)
**NEW**
Buddy Club coilovers < Thanks Lig ! EDIT
Fr: 569(10) - Rr: 569(10) (Donate here for his chiropractic bills)
H&R coilovers
Fr: 345(6.16) - Rr: 345(6.16) < Thanks Ludedude !
Spoon Sports Progressive Springs
Fr: 263(4.7) - Rr: 386(6.9)
Tanabe GF210
Fr: 283(5.0) - Rr: 378(6.75)
Tein Type CS coilover
Fr: 224(4.0) - Rr: 336(6.0)
Tein Type RA coilover
Fr: 559(10) - Rr: 559(10)
Backyard Special European R Springs
Fr: 262(4.6) Rr: 335(5.9)
Maybe someone can school me... I'm looking for spring rates on the Eibach Pro-Kit and Ground-controls...I don't intend on tracking my daily driver so I'm looking for something to eliminate some wheel-gap, and keep the same ride.
Everyone's opinion is subject to their perspective and perception of "ride quality". So, I figure the best way to figure this for myself is to study spring rates.
(I suppose "progressive rate" springs are not something typically listed as a static rate.)
Here's what I've found: (and if anyone can contribute please do)
OEM Springs: EDIT
NOTES: http://www.s2000.com/2004.php
"In terms of spring and damper tuning, up front the spring rates have been increased by nearly 7%, while in the rear they've actually been softened by roughly 10%. Damper rates have been adjusted accordingly. The front stabilizer bar is unchanged, while the rear bar has been reduced in diameter by 1.8mm."
00-01 - Fr: 218(3.9) - Rr: 291(5.2)
02-03 - Fr: 240(4.3) - Rr: 230(4.1) <<est.
2004 (this is a tough one...)
If calculated against 00-01 rates (based on quote above)
Fr: 233(4.16) - Rr: 262(4.68) (218 - 7%= 233) (291 - 10%= 262)
If calculated against 02-03 rates
Fr: 256(4.57) - Rr: 207(3.7) (probably incorrect)
KG/mm sport:
Fr: 398(7.0) - Rr: 448(8.0)
Neuspeed:
Fr: 280(5.0) - Rr: 215(3.8)
Tein S-Tech:
Fr: 297(5.3) - Rr: 364(6.5)
Espelir Active Super Down
Fr: 313.6(5.5) - Rr: 392(7.0)
Eibach Pro-Kit EDIT
Fr: 262(4.67) - Rr: 342(6.1) < Thanks s2ka !
Eibach Ground-Control
??? (build to spec)
**NEW**
Buddy Club coilovers < Thanks Lig ! EDIT
Fr: 569(10) - Rr: 569(10) (Donate here for his chiropractic bills)
H&R coilovers
Fr: 345(6.16) - Rr: 345(6.16) < Thanks Ludedude !
Spoon Sports Progressive Springs
Fr: 263(4.7) - Rr: 386(6.9)
Tanabe GF210
Fr: 283(5.0) - Rr: 378(6.75)
Tein Type CS coilover
Fr: 224(4.0) - Rr: 336(6.0)
Tein Type RA coilover
Fr: 559(10) - Rr: 559(10)
Backyard Special European R Springs
Fr: 262(4.6) Rr: 335(5.9)
08-08-2004, 06:06 PM
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FWIW, I have 380's all around... I don't believe they are too harsh. My car is not exactly a daily driver, but I have put on 47k+ miles on her in just under two years. I'll be using 500/550 next time at the track though.
08-09-2004, 05:10 AM
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I'd prefer to keep the stock feel, but get the impression that if I lower it an inch, and keep the same "rate" I run the risk of bottom-ing out the shock.
-true?
Would it be unreasonable to get GC's with stock rates?
240(4.3) - Rr: 230(4.1)
Another thing;
What's up with the rear rates having bias over front on certain models?
what's the point there?
thanks!
-true?
Would it be unreasonable to get GC's with stock rates?
240(4.3) - Rr: 230(4.1)
Another thing;
What's up with the rear rates having bias over front on certain models?
what's the point there?
thanks!
08-09-2004, 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by oryanh,Aug 9 2004, 08:10 AM
I'd prefer to keep the stock feel, but get the impression that if I lower it an inch, and keep the same "rate" I run the risk of bottom-ing out the shock.
-true?
Would it be unreasonable to get GC's with stock rates?
240(4.3) - Rr: 230(4.1)
Another thing;
What's up with the rear rates having bias over front on certain models?
what's the point there?
thanks!
-true?
Would it be unreasonable to get GC's with stock rates?
240(4.3) - Rr: 230(4.1)
Another thing;
What's up with the rear rates having bias over front on certain models?
what's the point there?
thanks!
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08-12-2004, 10:18 AM
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Hey, does anybody know the spring rate of H&R springs?
With the spring rate being greater in the front, (ie.Neuspeed,KG/mmSport) ,the intent is to dial out oversteer.
With the spring rate being greater in the front, (ie.Neuspeed,KG/mmSport) ,the intent is to dial out oversteer.
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