s2000 race car on air suspension at buttonwillow
04-17-2014, 04:35 PM
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Becuase this car will be used for racing and competition. And i want to share what we are doing....
and information we are offering is free.
i dont think u are ebdavis....
i know s2000 track forum is hardcore.....
i have alot of respect for s2000 on the track and racing in series.
and thats why if i could share some new breakthru...id want you guys and gals to be first to know .
and information we are offering is free.
i dont think u are ebdavis....
i know s2000 track forum is hardcore.....
i have alot of respect for s2000 on the track and racing in series.
and thats why if i could share some new breakthru...id want you guys and gals to be first to know .
04-17-2014, 05:17 PM
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I've always wondered, is alignment thrown out the window with air suspension? I'm picky enough getting it down to the last tenths of degree of accuracy; what kind of repeatability does air suspension offer in terms of getting to the same ride height you were before?
04-17-2014, 05:51 PM
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It's cool to see someone trying something new. Those C91s are amazing tires but still, cool to see airbags on a track car.
Do the bags affect the spring rate? / how do you tune accordingly?
04-17-2014, 06:20 PM
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Air bags are springs, and are progressive. It would be like running on something really soft with progressive bump stops. But I think You'd need some serious damping and sway bars to control the amount roll that results from running a tire like that.
On an autox car, there's Actually some benefit to running the softest spring you can. The tires don't get worked as hard, and as long as the car still turns and takes a set, you can use the shocks to control the rate of weight transfer.
On track, where the elements are much bigger, this could also be a benefit where the car is soft and supple over small bumps, but super stiff at terminal roll due to the increase in spring rate.
I imagine that you could so some interesting things with an air reservoir and some solenoids. Bleed them off on the straights to lower the car and jack up the pressures in the turns. You could tie this to some datalogging/traction control/chassis sensors and have a pretty slick setup.
On an autox car, there's Actually some benefit to running the softest spring you can. The tires don't get worked as hard, and as long as the car still turns and takes a set, you can use the shocks to control the rate of weight transfer.
On track, where the elements are much bigger, this could also be a benefit where the car is soft and supple over small bumps, but super stiff at terminal roll due to the increase in spring rate.
I imagine that you could so some interesting things with an air reservoir and some solenoids. Bleed them off on the straights to lower the car and jack up the pressures in the turns. You could tie this to some datalogging/traction control/chassis sensors and have a pretty slick setup.
04-18-2014, 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by ebdavis' timestamp='1397778299' post='23118046
Sounds like a tuning nightmare. We aren't assholes (for the most part lol) but this is the racing and competition forum and this thread seems out of place.
It's cool to see someone trying something new. Those C91s are amazing tires but still, cool to see airbags on a track car.
Do the bags affect the spring rate? / how do you tune accordingly?