I wear my helmet at night when I go deer hunting in the mountains with maxrev and nexus

I never had an intention of building a race car. It certainly would have been simpler than building a modified visually street-legal road car. Besides, I'd love to see how my AC, audio and carpet equipped street car would compare to a stripped s2K racecar

 

[QUOTE=Asura,Jun 27 2006, 11:33 AM] I don't know about you, but wearing a helmet for an extra 4-6 hours is quite fatiguing on the neck muscles.

 

Less than 5 miles????

I think you are officially the most envied person here. I guess the next best thing would be having something like the following accessible to you 24hrs a day


Courtesy of Mr.7800 rpm revlimiter-I hate my clutch delay valve.

 

That has to be the best looking roll bar I've ever seen.

 

I've heard that "no cage on the streets" commentary before but, never backed up by more than hearsay.

My civic hatch has a full cage. The bars are tucked up into the roofline so, they're invisible from outside the car. The front bar rides right where the sun visers attach (still there) The down bars ride along the a-piller, through the dash and to the floor boxes that are welded to the sill and floor. That back doesn't really matter to this discussion. Any bar close to a passenger or driver is covered with SFI certified padding as is required for most track days. The padding's at least 3/4" thick and it's a dense foam. Racing seats and a 6pt harness on both sides. The harnesses are always used, even on trips to the 7-11.

You're saying I'm not as safe with that setup than I would be with a factory belt, flimsey seat and thin plastic cladding on the A pillers and roof line?

I agree, poorly done, a cage can be a death trap to someone's who's not as careful as I am. I just don't think that a blanket "no cages on the street" is always true. It's all in how you engineer it.

I'm not planning on caging my S2K but, a rollbar similiar to the one shown here, yes that's in the cards. I need some place to bolt my harness.

 

You can run a cage in a street car with no helmet. How safe that is will depend on your perception. Each person can justify how much risk is acceptable to them. Pesonally, I don't want to see people I know getting hurt, so I voice my concern on the matter. Unfortunately, the split second of an impact will disseminate more wisdom than any post on this board. With a helmet on, the SFI padding will only absorb some of the energy.

 

No doubt, my opinions worth about as much as yours. It's all hearsay till you crash into something.

 

Actually no, its a question of opinion, and in this case your opinion is wrong and that's based on facts not hearsay.

Its also not a question of cage design but one that you have a roll bar with in inches of the side of your head. First big crash or t-bone your putting yourself at HUGE risks of a Subdural Hematoma when the side of your head impacts the bar.

But you do look pimpy with a cage in your street car

-Rylan

 

If he's wearing a full harness though at all times and his head is far from the bar (e.g. if short, low seat, high roof etc.) so his head can't reach it unless the cage collapses, then it could be safer than stock (considering the size of the impact that would be necessary to have his head make contact).

 

It's turned into a religeous arguement. I don't expect to change your mind. I do feel pretty safe in my steel cocoon.

Other than the rear support going to the shock towers, the cage's pretty invisible. Without looking in, you can't easily tell the front section's there. It was done by Piper Motorsports in Sterling VA and they do damn good work. I'm going to be talking to them tomorrow about getting in the queue for a rollbar for my S2k.

Crap there's a picture of me somewhere here in the forum at VIR two weeks ago. Not sure where it is.

http://gfacter.smugmug.com/photos/76073993-M.jpg

Yes, I do look like a goober in real life too.