First HPDE in my '05
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First HPDE in my '05
I have Mobil 1 synthetic in the motor and I'm swapping in some Motul brake fluid tomorrow. How do the stock brake pads hold up? What psi should I run on the stock tires? This particular track (Motorsport Ranch-Ft. Worth) isn't a super high speed track, I figure I'll probably hit just over 100mph on a few of the straights and 70-80mph on a couple sweepers.
Anything else I should watch out for? I have several years of track experience with a C5, but this will be my first time in the S2000.
Anything else I should watch out for? I have several years of track experience with a C5, but this will be my first time in the S2000.
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Stock pads will hold up if you're not very fast. Seeing as though you have a few years experience on the track, though, I imagine you're gonna hit the limits of the stock system rather quickly. If I was you I'd begin calling around to find some aftermarket pads. If you can't find pads, just make sure you do a very thorough job of bleeding/flushing the fluid so the pads are your only problem. May want to rig some front ducts, too.
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On the revisions for the AP2, Honda said they used new pad material. Any idea as to whether this is going to be better than the stock AP1 material?
I have a lot of experience on the track, so after about a half session, I'm going to be pushing the car to it's limits. I hope my pads aren't toast after the first track day. The Motul fluid flush will be thorough. A good, mechanically-inclined buddy of mine is going to help and he has some auto fluid pump that will do the full flush quickly and effectively.
I have a lot of experience on the track, so after about a half session, I'm going to be pushing the car to it's limits. I hope my pads aren't toast after the first track day. The Motul fluid flush will be thorough. A good, mechanically-inclined buddy of mine is going to help and he has some auto fluid pump that will do the full flush quickly and effectively.
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Originally Posted by QUIKAG,Jan 21 2006, 02:00 PM
On the revisions for the AP2, Honda said they used new pad material. Any idea as to whether this is going to be better than the stock AP1 material?
I have a lot of experience on the track, so after about a half session, I'm going to be pushing the car to it's limits. I hope my pads aren't toast after the first track day. The Motul fluid flush will be thorough. A good, mechanically-inclined buddy of mine is going to help and he has some auto fluid pump that will do the full flush quickly and effectively.
I have a lot of experience on the track, so after about a half session, I'm going to be pushing the car to it's limits. I hope my pads aren't toast after the first track day. The Motul fluid flush will be thorough. A good, mechanically-inclined buddy of mine is going to help and he has some auto fluid pump that will do the full flush quickly and effectively.
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Originally Posted by StockSH,Jan 23 2006, 12:40 PM
Is it OK to swap only front pads?
I tried that one time, putting a higher Cf compound on the front and running OEM on the back. In only one track day (and one of my first track days, too!), I overtemped the rears so badly that they literally cooked white and crumbled to the touch.
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Thanks for the info, guys! I do wish someone had definitive tech on the new pad compounds for the AP2 cars. I am not abusive on the brakes, but I will be pushing the car very hard (at least as hard as the stock tires will allow), so will obviously need the pads to hold up.
I did a full Motul brake fluid flush this past weekend and am running synthetic in the motor, so I should be good to go there.
I did a full Motul brake fluid flush this past weekend and am running synthetic in the motor, so I should be good to go there.
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If you have "lots of track experience" then you should know that street pads of ANY kind will just not hold up on track; they will fade and/or wear out within a single day. Even if Honda made a minor tweak to the compound, it's still a street pad and will still disintegrate under hard use.
What's the real question here? Can you get away with it for a day? Well maybe, sure, but you'll be worrying about brakes all day and will have to buy a new set of street pads when you get home. Oh, and they're no cheaper than race pads, so you'll be spending the same amount of money -- why not just suck it up and do it right?