ENKEI WHEEL "GROUP BUY" FEELER THREAD
06-07-2012, 06:21 AM
#51
I don't think it's necessarily a given that they can only make one wheel and one wheel only. There's clearly a demand for an RPF1 for autocross. Also simply changing the offset by 15mm on their current RPF1 has to be easier than making a whole new wheel - so it may be the 17x9 is feasible while the 17x10 is not.
Anyway, I don't see the point of arguing the merits of what other people want until the guy comes back and says "sorry guys, we can only make one s2ki special wheel, here's a dipstick as your weapon, fight to the death and the winner gets his wheel made"
06-07-2012, 06:35 AM
#52
I'll argue from the experience of running the 17x9.5 +38 rpf1s in the past that a 17x10 +40 will not fit that easily and is definitely going to poke even with race camber.
I'd say a 17x10 +45 would probably be the best mix of all. I also highly doubt that the NT03+M is going to look how people want. The 17" version has never had the nice looking concave face that the 18" ones get. I have a hard time believe enkei will completely redesign the wheel from the ground up. Keeping the current face and adding .5" of width wouldn't be nearly as much of a task.
Even though the size is what they want if they aren't going to look cool they aren't going to sell nearly as many as they'd like and possibly not even enough to get a group buy going. Unfortunately we need to do something that the masses want.
I agree with all others though that we don't need another STR friendly wheel out of this. There are plenty of those already. What we are missing is a good range of affordable wheels in the 17x10 +45-50 range. I think the only want this group buy will truly be worth their while is if they decide to go with a 9.5 or 10" wide wheel.
Nam, are you making contact on the inside at the top of the tire?
I'd say a 17x10 +45 would probably be the best mix of all. I also highly doubt that the NT03+M is going to look how people want. The 17" version has never had the nice looking concave face that the 18" ones get. I have a hard time believe enkei will completely redesign the wheel from the ground up. Keeping the current face and adding .5" of width wouldn't be nearly as much of a task.
Even though the size is what they want if they aren't going to look cool they aren't going to sell nearly as many as they'd like and possibly not even enough to get a group buy going. Unfortunately we need to do something that the masses want.
I agree with all others though that we don't need another STR friendly wheel out of this. There are plenty of those already. What we are missing is a good range of affordable wheels in the 17x10 +45-50 range. I think the only want this group buy will truly be worth their while is if they decide to go with a 9.5 or 10" wide wheel.
Nam, are you making contact on the inside at the top of the tire?
Pretty much the only wheel I want besides what I have now (17x9.5 +38 w/ 255s) are CE28's for the sole reason that you can get them in 17x10 +45. Would basically be the perfect size. Pretty much just like steve is saying, anything between +44-50 in a 10j would be perfect.
06-07-2012, 07:00 AM
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I wonder if a 17x10+42 nt03+m can be made with the concave face? I would order a set today if that became available.I don't care about bbk clearance because the stocn brakes are adequate with the right setup from what I've read.
Anyone else for this?
Anyone else for this?
I also don't give a crap about BBK clearance either.
06-07-2012, 08:06 AM
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Also I want to point out that some people seem to overlook the strength of the wheel simply in favor of the wheels weight. I would never take an rpf1 for track use over the same available size nt03. Wheels bend on track ALL the time. To have someone like Mark say that he's NEVER bent an NT03 well, it says something. Seriously.
Last Edit: For those of you asking for a 17x9 +60-3 you have like 5-6 different options I can think of off the top of my head. Why the hell do you want another one?
06-07-2012, 08:26 AM
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We don't have 5-6 different options for under, say, $300/wheel. There's the TSW Nurburgring (19 lbs), Enkei PF01, TR C3 (20 lbs), that other TSW wheel (pretty sure over 20 lbs)....I can't think of any others, so 4 wheels, 3 of which are really heavy. An RPF1 would be significantly lighter than all of them, including the PF01. Plus I know it's stupid and a minor thing but I'd like bronze/gold wheels, so I'm out of luck if I want something light in that color since basically the PF01 is my only choice and it's black or silver.
06-07-2012, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Bullwings' timestamp='1339062321' post='21761781
I'd like a wheel that's strong, comes in 17x10 +42ish and clears a bbk, and costs less than $1500 for a set. I'm willing to sacrifice weight just as long as it doesn't weigh over 21 lbs.
Light weight / strong / cheap.... pick two.
I've done that, I'm sacrificing light weight. BBK clearance is a matter of looks/spoke design, and with a +42ish offset, that's not too hard to achieve. I don't care if the wheel doesn't have a "lip"