Dry Sump......
10-29-2004, 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by krazik,Oct 28 2004, 10:08 PM
The engine mounts won't do you any good w/o the oil pan.
10-29-2004, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by davepk,Oct 29 2004, 02:26 AM
$1500 range??
Dude! Take a look around and price out the 3 main components, pump, pan and tank. Hell, the pump is around $700 and the pan is around $400. Add to that the tank, belt drive hw, oil filter hw, AN fittings and hose. Oh and dont forget the mounting bracket and the oem oil pump block off plate. I know i'm forgetting a few items.
Dude! Take a look around and price out the 3 main components, pump, pan and tank. Hell, the pump is around $700 and the pan is around $400. Add to that the tank, belt drive hw, oil filter hw, AN fittings and hose. Oh and dont forget the mounting bracket and the oem oil pump block off plate. I know i'm forgetting a few items.
However.
I would recomend that you and Rylan hold off on that mod for a while.
Some racing organizations don't allow dry sumps..............
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10-29-2004, 09:56 AM
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Why does the SCCA allow shock and swaybar replacement in a "stock" class? Doesn't make any sense either but racing organizations are free to do what they please.
10-29-2004, 10:22 AM
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yeah Karner which classes don't allow dry sumps? Besides "stock" classes of course.
They don't really offer any performance advantage themselves. Just increased reliablity.
They don't really offer any performance advantage themselves. Just increased reliablity.
10-29-2004, 10:35 AM
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Hmmmm......
The classes that I'm interested in personally don't allow them.
Don't ask me.
I'm trying to keep you from doing a mod that would keep you from racing with us.
That's all.
Racing organizations are weid sometimes.
I'm working on a mod that puts baffle doors in a stock oil pan.
Would any of you be interested?
The classes that I'm interested in personally don't allow them.
Don't ask me.
I'm trying to keep you from doing a mod that would keep you from racing with us.
That's all.
Racing organizations are weid sometimes.
I'm working on a mod that puts baffle doors in a stock oil pan.
Would any of you be interested?
10-29-2004, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by gernby,Oct 29 2004, 12:13 PM
It also seems like a dry sump couild be considered a safety feature. Doesn't SCCA allow roll cages in stock classes?
10-29-2004, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by payneinthe,Oct 29 2004, 02:18 PM
Not the best way to look at it. By extension, if I'm making steering inputs that require 1.5gs to stay on track, then slicks would be safer, as I'd be less likely to go off.
Are oil coolers banned by any racing orgs?
10-29-2004, 11:57 AM
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Decreasing crank windage can be a big performance advantage. Additional oil quantity and/or cooling capacity in cars where heat buildup is an issue is also an advantage.
Dry sump isn't legal in SCCA Solo2's Stock or Street Prepared classes, and I'm not sure it's even legal in Prepared. It's not legal in Honda-Challenge either, as Karner implies.
There are plenty of mods that could be considered "reliability" mods that aren't allowed (rubber hose replacement on RX7-TT for example) because it leads to a slippery slope of what is done for reliability vs. performance.
Karner, King and Spoon both have pans out for the car, and I think Erik Messley (EMI) custom-did one for Paul Mumford's S2000. Their designs might provide some good ideas in how to build yours...
Dry sump isn't legal in SCCA Solo2's Stock or Street Prepared classes, and I'm not sure it's even legal in Prepared. It's not legal in Honda-Challenge either, as Karner implies.
There are plenty of mods that could be considered "reliability" mods that aren't allowed (rubber hose replacement on RX7-TT for example) because it leads to a slippery slope of what is done for reliability vs. performance.
Karner, King and Spoon both have pans out for the car, and I think Erik Messley (EMI) custom-did one for Paul Mumford's S2000. Their designs might provide some good ideas in how to build yours...