Congrats to Andrie and Rylan in SCCA Runoffs!
10-15-2014 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by albertg' timestamp='[url="tel:1413347504"
1413347504[/url]' post='23369930]
Congrats guys! I saw the live stream and Andrie's car looked setup. What are the major differences for an s2000 in STU vs T3. I see its about a 3s difference at MRLS. 1:40-41's sound fast in a T3 setup. That is discouraging, haha.
Congrats guys! I saw the live stream and Andrie's car looked setup. What are the major differences for an s2000 in STU vs T3. I see its about a 3s difference at MRLS. 1:40-41's sound fast in a T3 setup. That is discouraging, haha.
A few differences:
- T3 car minimum is 2850lbs
- STU car minimum in similar trim is 2365lbs but none of us (me, Andrie, Krazik) are anywhere close to that.
- STU has more open suspension rules (notably springs) but T3 cars can run good dampers with stock top hats (or something like that)
- STU can use a sequential transmission and do mild engine work (cams, porting)
I was slightly faster than Kevin in my car but not as fast as I should have been. Doing a single test day on the hoosiers would have helped =)
Kevin's S2000 was heavily damaged front and rear during the 1st lap pile-up in turn 3. He still managed to climb back into 5th in T3 despite the aero handicap and a crimped (rt. angle bend) tail pipe.
Without the damage, I think he would've been on the podium.
Will, any update on the damage?
Mike
10-16-2014 | 05:47 AM
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From: Bay Area, CA
Originally Posted by cracknut' timestamp='[url="tel:1413377791"
1413377791[/url]' post='23370170]
[quote name='albertg' timestamp='1413347504' post='23369930']
Congrats guys! I saw the live stream and Andrie's car looked setup. What are the major differences for an s2000 in STU vs T3. I see its about a 3s difference at MRLS. 1:40-41's sound fast in a T3 setup. That is discouraging, haha.
[quote name='albertg' timestamp='1413347504' post='23369930']
Congrats guys! I saw the live stream and Andrie's car looked setup. What are the major differences for an s2000 in STU vs T3. I see its about a 3s difference at MRLS. 1:40-41's sound fast in a T3 setup. That is discouraging, haha.
A few differences:
- T3 car minimum is 2850lbs
- STU car minimum in similar trim is 2365lbs but none of us (me, Andrie, Krazik) are anywhere close to that.
- STU has more open suspension rules (notably springs) but T3 cars can run good dampers with stock top hats (or something like that)
- STU can use a sequential transmission and do mild engine work (cams, porting)
I was slightly faster than Kevin in my car but not as fast as I should have been. Doing a single test day on the hoosiers would have helped =)
Kevin's S2000 was heavily damaged front and rear during the 1st lap pile-up in turn 3. He still managed to climb back into 5th in T3 despite the aero handicap and a crimped (rt. angle bend) tail pipe.
Without the damage, I think he would've been on the podium.
Will, any update on the damage?
Mike
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Yes - I think the S2k could still be a very competitive package in T3 especially at Mid-Ohio in 2 years.
I borrowed suspension pieces from Kevin to load my car in the trailer. Big thanks to him and everyone at HPD for arranging for the tent and paddock support. Was really fun to meet all of them.
I spent so much time in September and October prepping I'm a little burned out so the car is still in the trailer =)
In short, the bumper and CR lip are salvageable but everything else that bolts on to the left front corner needs to be replaced. Scratch that - the Girodisc 2pc brake rotor I got from Speed-freaks looks great!
10-16-2014 | 08:59 AM
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Albert,
Kevin's S2000 was heavily damaged front and rear during the 1st lap pile-up in turn 3. He still managed to climb back into 5th in T3 despite the aero handicap and a crimped (rt. angle bend) tail pipe.
Without the damage, I think he would've been on the podium.
Will, any update on the damage?
Mike
Kevin's S2000 was heavily damaged front and rear during the 1st lap pile-up in turn 3. He still managed to climb back into 5th in T3 despite the aero handicap and a crimped (rt. angle bend) tail pipe.
Without the damage, I think he would've been on the podium.
Will, any update on the damage?
Mike
10-16-2014 | 08:54 PM
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From: Irvine
Originally Posted by Dipstick' timestamp='[url="tel:1413442009"
1413442009[/url]' post='23371324]
[quote name='cracknut' timestamp='1413377791' post='23370170']
[quote name='albertg' timestamp='1413347504' post='23369930']
Congrats guys! I saw the live stream and Andrie's car looked setup. What are the major differences for an s2000 in STU vs T3. I see its about a 3s difference at MRLS. 1:40-41's sound fast in a T3 setup. That is discouraging, haha.
[quote name='cracknut' timestamp='1413377791' post='23370170']
[quote name='albertg' timestamp='1413347504' post='23369930']
Congrats guys! I saw the live stream and Andrie's car looked setup. What are the major differences for an s2000 in STU vs T3. I see its about a 3s difference at MRLS. 1:40-41's sound fast in a T3 setup. That is discouraging, haha.
A few differences:
- T3 car minimum is 2850lbs
- STU car minimum in similar trim is 2365lbs but none of us (me, Andrie, Krazik) are anywhere close to that.
- STU has more open suspension rules (notably springs) but T3 cars can run good dampers with stock top hats (or something like that)
- STU can use a sequential transmission and do mild engine work (cams, porting)
I was slightly faster than Kevin in my car but not as fast as I should have been. Doing a single test day on the hoosiers would have helped =)
Kevin's S2000 was heavily damaged front and rear during the 1st lap pile-up in turn 3. He still managed to climb back into 5th in T3 despite the aero handicap and a crimped (rt. angle bend) tail pipe.
Without the damage, I think he would've been on the podium.
Will, any update on the damage?
Mike
[/quote]
Yes - I think the S2k could still be a very competitive package in T3 especially at Mid-Ohio in 2 years.
I borrowed suspension pieces from Kevin to load my car in the trailer. Big thanks to him and everyone at HPD for arranging for the tent and paddock support. Was really fun to meet all of them.
I spent so much time in September and October prepping I'm a little burned out so the car is still in the trailer =)
In short, the bumper and CR lip are salvageable but everything else that bolts on to the left front corner needs to be replaced. Scratch that - the Girodisc 2pc brake rotor I got from Speed-freaks looks great!
[/quote]
Yeah, it's a pretty exhausting event....I'm gonna take a few more days to recover myself. Good luck with the rebuild!
10-16-2014 | 10:03 PM
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Here is the whole race https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDH-...5XnExWLscTdGPQ
I'm gonna have an edited down one tomorrow.
I'm gonna have an edited down one tomorrow.
