Canton pan thoughts here
#441
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My guess is it will be okay. The pans they're selling now are far far beyond the initial production run. So, given that they know what the problems were before, and given that we know that they were primarily caused by the welder who isn't doing the welding anymore, I would think they'll make sure the pain is okay. Glad to know that they have good customer service and are warranties something that is as old as it is. Also, Jeff has told me that they aren't getting any complaints like before on these pans are now pretty much made to order.
#442
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Just FYI, they are replacing the pan and not attempting a repair. If it was a welder that is no longer working there, might be okay. One of my favorite local shops has done a ton of great work for me over the years, but they had one bum employee once (now fired) who messed up one project for us. They put one of their good employees on the project and fixed the issues. Even good shops suffer poor employees, as long as we (as consumers) understand that and come to reasonable solutions, that's well within my expectation. Yes, I'd prefer to not be on the first run of a project next time, but it is what it is.
#443
Just FYI, they are replacing the pan and not attempting a repair. If it was a welder that is no longer working there, might be okay. One of my favorite local shops has done a ton of great work for me over the years, but they had one bum employee once (now fired) who messed up one project for us. They put one of their good employees on the project and fixed the issues. Even good shops suffer poor employees, as long as we (as consumers) understand that and come to reasonable solutions, that's well within my expectation. Yes, I'd prefer to not be on the first run of a project next time, but it is what it is.
#444
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Originally Posted by CKit' timestamp='1446644674' post='23794627
Just FYI, they are replacing the pan and not attempting a repair. If it was a welder that is no longer working there, might be okay. One of my favorite local shops has done a ton of great work for me over the years, but they had one bum employee once (now fired) who messed up one project for us. They put one of their good employees on the project and fixed the issues. Even good shops suffer poor employees, as long as we (as consumers) understand that and come to reasonable solutions, that's well within my expectation. Yes, I'd prefer to not be on the first run of a project next time, but it is what it is.
Sorry, but I give Canton Racing zero kudos for the way they treated me as a customer who experienced a problem with their product. Also, please keep in mind that the pan I bought was NOT within the discounted-cost, s2ki group buy initial production run—I paid the full retail price + shipping direct from Canton for mine.
#445
I finally installed a mechanical gauge for oil pressure and was kind of disappointed today. I noticed some starvation in a high speed right on every lap on my GoPro video at the FIRM. I'm hoping that maybe a door is just stuck open. If not, then this really sucks. I'm on really old Z2s I bought off of danuk and it has been over a year since I have even driven the car so I'm definitely out of practice. Checked oil level just prior to going on track.
Anywho, just reporting my results after going from an electronic gauge to a mechanical gauge.
Anywho, just reporting my results after going from an electronic gauge to a mechanical gauge.
#447
I finally installed a mechanical gauge for oil pressure and was kind of disappointed today. I noticed some starvation in a high speed right on every lap on my GoPro video at the FIRM. I'm hoping that maybe a door is just stuck open. If not, then this really sucks. I'm on really old Z2s I bought off of danuk and it has been over a year since I have even driven the car so I'm definitely out of practice. Checked oil level just prior to going on track.
Anywho, just reporting my results after going from an electronic gauge to a mechanical gauge.
Anywho, just reporting my results after going from an electronic gauge to a mechanical gauge.
Starvation, means pressure dropping close to zero. If your pressure was simply dropping to lower than normal, that's the oil pump, not the pan. In other words, if the pickup is covered with oil, then it's covered with oil. Doesn't matter if it's covered with six quarts or a half a cup.
Also, potential problem with a mechanical gauge, if for some reason the oil pressure isn't getting all the way from your engine to the inside of your car to the back of the gauge.
#448
20psi.
Included a couple videos. Looks like it does the same thing under braking in the second video.
https://www.youtube....h?v=ZnwLGuXYN44
https://www.youtube....eature=youtu.be
Would be interested to hear thoughts on it but definitely not what I expected... Does the same thing in varying degrees lap after lap on this turn and on occasion in other right turns. I'm guessing way way worse at something like Roebling...(??)
Included a couple videos. Looks like it does the same thing under braking in the second video.
https://www.youtube....h?v=ZnwLGuXYN44
https://www.youtube....eature=youtu.be
Would be interested to hear thoughts on it but definitely not what I expected... Does the same thing in varying degrees lap after lap on this turn and on occasion in other right turns. I'm guessing way way worse at something like Roebling...(??)
#450
20psi.
Included a couple videos. Looks like it does the same thing under braking in the second video.
https://www.youtube....h?v=ZnwLGuXYN44
https://www.youtube....eature=youtu.be
Would be interested to hear thoughts on it but definitely not what I expected... Does the same thing in varying degrees lap after lap on this turn and on occasion in other right turns. I'm guessing way way worse at something like Roebling...(??)
Included a couple videos. Looks like it does the same thing under braking in the second video.
https://www.youtube....h?v=ZnwLGuXYN44
https://www.youtube....eature=youtu.be
Would be interested to hear thoughts on it but definitely not what I expected... Does the same thing in varying degrees lap after lap on this turn and on occasion in other right turns. I'm guessing way way worse at something like Roebling...(??)
As I mentioned before, if the oil pickup is covered with oil, then it won't contribute to any oil pressure starvation or drop, regardless of whether it's covered with 5 quarts or 1 cup. I can't really see the gauge well, and it's difficult to conjecture how quickly and how much your gauge would drop if the pickup was uncovered for a brief moment.
You may have mentioned this in the past, but what did you notice with your electric gauge? Even if it was before the Canton pan. Since I can't see the gauge well, how long was your pressure drop? With my piece of crap AEM gauges, you can't tell crap. They are just a bunch of stupid LED's and a digital readout that bounces around so erratically it's almost useless. No damping.
The pan is theoretically a possibility, since your gauge and tracking is for the first time, the accuracy or installation of a mechanical gauge is a possibility, and another possibility is this is a problem with just your engine or pump, or the overall design. Again, we have such limited past data, so thanks for this, and keep it coming.