Canton pan thoughts here
07-10-2014, 10:31 AM
#122
Community Organizer
Originally Posted by davidc1' timestamp='1404693339' post='23232301
This is a really important point guys. The big picture of manufactures willing to take risks in making performance parts for cars is nothing to take lightly. If you ever wondered why "how come no manufacturer has made a part for Car X, it seems simple, it can't be that big a deal...well, it really is!"
Manufacturers look at the risks involved, how much it will cost, will it work for everyone, how can we test it, and how are we going to get bashed if something doesn't work perfectly? One little problem for one part on some cars but not others, can cost manufacturers huge amounts of money for all the other products they sell.
People really don't understand how much damage they can do by just posting up stuff like that. As you've seen on the forum there are now several guys that are not going to put their pans on now. What this does is makes manufacturers less than excited to venture into new markets. The power of social media has just exploded in recent years, for good and bad. We must be responsible in how we use it, if in the end run, we want these products to come out.
Can anyone name the vendor and/org the product above?
07-10-2014, 01:47 PM
#123
Registered User
I understand folks are wanting a completely bolt-on part, but modifications/turbocharging/etc will always require some adjustment. A roll bar instance should always be built specifically for the person driving the car.
07-23-2014, 02:10 AM
#124
Hey all, I'm hoping to be at Buttonwillow this Sunday the 27th.
If any of you are going to be there, please walk up and say hello. It would be nice to put some faces to the posts. Thanks again everyone for all your support.
Look for a 53 year old guy driving an Apex Blue "Type S". (That's a soft-top with CR suspension and aero).
If any of you are going to be there, please walk up and say hello. It would be nice to put some faces to the posts. Thanks again everyone for all your support.
Look for a 53 year old guy driving an Apex Blue "Type S". (That's a soft-top with CR suspension and aero).
07-26-2014, 01:41 PM
#125
2004 AP-2: Stock engine, flywheel and transmission.
Just returned from two track days, so haven't read all the posts.
I installed the oil pan over the 4th of July weekend. Car up on jackstands and me on the floor on my back at a weekend place with not many tools. I decided not to use the stock windage tray, so that was not an issue. I was able to get the pan to fit, although it was a tight fit. Had to put the pan on the floor jack, and carefully jack it into position. No modifications needed.
Flywheel cover did not fit, even closely. I gave up and fabricated a cover from a piece of steel roofing (24 gauge???) that was up there. Used a saber saw, a drill and a mill file to smooth out the edges. Pretty crude, but did the basic job. Made all the cuts when flat, and folded as necessary. Had to have a double second bend near the middle to clear the center section of the flywheel - and ears to bend around to close the gap in that section. Wings to cover the bottom of the engine - although I didn't do a great job on those.
Edit: Another remark: I felt that the lip of the pan extended too close to the flywheel for the supplied flywheel cover to fit adjacent to the lip, i.e., between the lip and the flywheel. On the cover that I made, I notched out the cover so that it sits on top of (i.e., below, when viewed from the bottom) the oil pan lip. The flywheel cover that was supplied was about 1/4 inch thick. The material that I used was perhaps 1/16th inch thick. I used the same 4 bolt layout and it seemed tight and sturdy enough for my purposes. Two days on track and no sense of any harmonic vibration. I admit that I did not test the cover out in the gravel trap at the end of Turn 8.
Edit: By the way, for reasons unknown, I felt much better at the track knowing that I had the baffled pan - even though my driving probably doesn't justify it. Oil starvation now just one less thing to worry about.
Just returned from two track days, so haven't read all the posts.
I installed the oil pan over the 4th of July weekend. Car up on jackstands and me on the floor on my back at a weekend place with not many tools. I decided not to use the stock windage tray, so that was not an issue. I was able to get the pan to fit, although it was a tight fit. Had to put the pan on the floor jack, and carefully jack it into position. No modifications needed.
Flywheel cover did not fit, even closely. I gave up and fabricated a cover from a piece of steel roofing (24 gauge???) that was up there. Used a saber saw, a drill and a mill file to smooth out the edges. Pretty crude, but did the basic job. Made all the cuts when flat, and folded as necessary. Had to have a double second bend near the middle to clear the center section of the flywheel - and ears to bend around to close the gap in that section. Wings to cover the bottom of the engine - although I didn't do a great job on those.
Edit: Another remark: I felt that the lip of the pan extended too close to the flywheel for the supplied flywheel cover to fit adjacent to the lip, i.e., between the lip and the flywheel. On the cover that I made, I notched out the cover so that it sits on top of (i.e., below, when viewed from the bottom) the oil pan lip. The flywheel cover that was supplied was about 1/4 inch thick. The material that I used was perhaps 1/16th inch thick. I used the same 4 bolt layout and it seemed tight and sturdy enough for my purposes. Two days on track and no sense of any harmonic vibration. I admit that I did not test the cover out in the gravel trap at the end of Turn 8.
Edit: By the way, for reasons unknown, I felt much better at the track knowing that I had the baffled pan - even though my driving probably doesn't justify it. Oil starvation now just one less thing to worry about.
Buttonwillow tomorrow. Come say hello. Apex Blue soft top.
08-01-2014, 08:55 AM
#129
