All S2000s going to AS(official results)
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Originally Posted by solo2racer,Oct 14 2004, 10:48 AM
There are two arguments for adjustable shocks. The logic goes something like this...
----- 1st -----
The club wants to allow people to replace their shocks with cheap replacements rather than having to buy expensive OEM parts. This means allowing Sears, Midas, etc shocks. Well, if you're going to allow that, then why not GAB, Tokiko, Koni sport, etc? They're the same price and better quality and performance.
So now you've decided to allow aftermarket parts into the class - where do you draw the line? Define a rule that allows just the cheap ones but not the expensive ones. Oh, and do it without using price as a limitation. Just the configuration of the shocks.
Single adjustment only? Well, what about Penske singles? They're $2000/set and give better performance that the OEM shocks.
No external canisters? What about Koni 28's? They're $4000/set and give better performance than the Penskes.
Single adjustment and no external canisters? Koni 30's at $3000/set plus a few rebuilds a year.
Double adjustable and external canisters? It opens it up to anything from $800/set Koni sports to $5000/set Motons. It actually give competitors better choices and a wider range of prices.
----- 2nd -----
If you require OEM parts only, then cars that come with better shocks from the factory will dominate over cars without the equivalent. Neon ACRs came with single adjustable shocks - they would dominate GS if no one else could put adjustable shocks on their cars.
Type R's come with better shocks than BMW 330s in DS. If you disallow shocks, the ITR will be the only car to have.
There are examples like this throughout the class structure. By allowing shocks, you give more car options to competitors than if they have to pick the car with the best OEM shocks.
Make sense?
----- 1st -----
The club wants to allow people to replace their shocks with cheap replacements rather than having to buy expensive OEM parts. This means allowing Sears, Midas, etc shocks. Well, if you're going to allow that, then why not GAB, Tokiko, Koni sport, etc? They're the same price and better quality and performance.
So now you've decided to allow aftermarket parts into the class - where do you draw the line? Define a rule that allows just the cheap ones but not the expensive ones. Oh, and do it without using price as a limitation. Just the configuration of the shocks.
Single adjustment only? Well, what about Penske singles? They're $2000/set and give better performance that the OEM shocks.
No external canisters? What about Koni 28's? They're $4000/set and give better performance than the Penskes.
Single adjustment and no external canisters? Koni 30's at $3000/set plus a few rebuilds a year.
Double adjustable and external canisters? It opens it up to anything from $800/set Koni sports to $5000/set Motons. It actually give competitors better choices and a wider range of prices.
----- 2nd -----
If you require OEM parts only, then cars that come with better shocks from the factory will dominate over cars without the equivalent. Neon ACRs came with single adjustable shocks - they would dominate GS if no one else could put adjustable shocks on their cars.
Type R's come with better shocks than BMW 330s in DS. If you disallow shocks, the ITR will be the only car to have.
There are examples like this throughout the class structure. By allowing shocks, you give more car options to competitors than if they have to pick the car with the best OEM shocks.
Make sense?
I am sure most of you are used to the bitching and crying about this and that.
Honestly, these last few posts, very very good responses, probably the best reasons I have read, on why.
To the point where I actually understand, is that a miracle or what?
Obviously, there is some question about maybe refining the rules a bit about the type of adjustable shocks allowed or disallowed.
I won't go there though.
Again I appreciate the response quoted, and most of the others for actually being non egotisical, and detailed.
I have been looking for a non-confrontational answer for the better part of 2 months.
Mark.
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