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Old 05-30-2012, 09:04 PM
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And yes i know they are all outta wack. Looking for advice on how ta tell techs to get best alignment results.
Old 05-31-2012, 05:25 AM
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the craddle to chassis mounting bolt holes are much bigger than the bolts, the craddle is moving around the bolts, i installed Spoons shim kit, got them go-tunning (tommy?)seems to be much better know.
Old 05-31-2012, 05:40 AM
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Advice??
From my website's alignment page: http://robrobinette....00Alignment.htm
If you are trying to maximize your camber in the front simply set the camber and caster adjusters to max outward extension (move the bottom of the wheel hub outward). Then tweak the adjusters on the wheel with the most caster and camber to match the other wheel. Once the caster and camber are set adjust the toe. Doing this will give you the optimal setting of camber and caster.

If you are trying to maximize your camber in the rear start with both adjusters set for maximum outward extension (move the bottom of the wheel hub outward). The toe setting is usually the limiting factor so leave them set for maximum outward extension and use the camber adjusters to set the toe. Tweak the wheel with the most negative camber to set the camber equal on both sides. Then set the toe using both wheels' camber adjusters. You may have to use the toe adjusters too but primarily use the camber adjusters to set the toe.
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Happens to me all the time. After a few hundred miles my steering wheel is off center as well.

However, the car still tracks straight. This doesn't necessarily mean the alignment is out of adjustment though, does it?
Old 06-03-2012, 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by xxGPWS2Kxx
Not wanting to thread jack. Couldn't find a pinned alignment thread. So i have a lifetime alignment at Firestone. I do as many hpde as i can. Have on this sat. Big willow. Just got some RS-3 225/255/17. Went ta get alignment done. This is what i got...

Camber. Caster. Toe
FL. -1.9. 5.9. 0

FR. -1.5. 5.3. 0.02

LR. -2.0. 0.04

RR. -2.9. 0.03

the tech ( an s2k owner) said he could get them to match up. Advice?? How do i get more camber in rear? Have thurs
Fri. Ta go back b4 my track day on sat. Please chim in
Thanks!
You mean these were the results after the alignment was done? It seems that is what you are saying, but then you say the tech said he could get them to match up...so, then why didn't he?
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David, if your steering wheel moves to off center there is definitely a problem with your alignment, even if the car tracks straight.
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Originally Posted by robrob
David, if your steering wheel moves to off center there is definitely a problem with your alignment, even if the car tracks straight.
Thanks. My next track day isn't till late July, so I'll be having it checked soon.

It appears from most peoples viewpoint that it's because some bolts "slip", and you just have to really crank them down tight. Real tight. Is that correct?
Old 06-03-2012, 09:31 AM
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usually if your steering wheel is off center but the car tracks perfectly straight that means the alignment guy didn't do a good job of straightening the steering wheel during the aligment. So if the steering wheel is straight on your next alignment most likely your numbers will be good except your front toe will look like LF -0.5 RF 0.5 or something like that.

If this is the case, then it doesn't actually affect the car, just means that your steering wheel is off center. This isn't a problem unless you have an 06+, and it might throw a VSA light.

Edit: but it's also possible other things are going on, like you have uneven toe in the rear pushing you to the left, and by compensating by steering to the right you're cancelling it out. This will hurt the car's handling. So best thing to do is to take it in regardless.
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Originally Posted by davidc1
It appears from most peoples viewpoint that it's because some bolts "slip", and you just have to really crank them down tight. Real tight. Is that correct?
Yeah, the first time I got an alignment from a "normal place" they tightened them to OEM torque values. MY first autocross some of them slipped. You need to tighten them really hard.
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Originally Posted by IntegraR0064
usually if your steering wheel is off center but the car tracks perfectly straight that means the alignment guy didn't do a good job of straightening the steering wheel during the aligment. So if the steering wheel is straight on your next alignment most likely your numbers will be good except your front toe will look like LF -0.5 RF 0.5 or something like that.

If this is the case, then it doesn't actually affect the car, just means that your steering wheel is off center. This isn't a problem unless you have an 06+, and it might throw a VSA light.

Edit: but it's also possible other things are going on, like you have uneven toe in the rear pushing you to the left, and by compensating by steering to the right you're cancelling it out. This will hurt the car's handling. So best thing to do is to take it in regardless.
In my case, after the alignment, the steering wheel was straight. A few hundred or more mile later, it's off center when the car is tracking straight. No pulling or anything.


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