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Old 11-28-2009, 11:37 PM
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Hi all,

I have an f22 block in good condition that only needs a rehone to restore the wall surface. I was thinking of using some f20 pistons with the f22 rods and crank to increase compression, as I've read on some forums. If I understand correctly the resulting CR is in the 11.7 neighborhood.

My question is, How much would I have to mill off the head/block, if possible, to achieve a CR between 12.7-13?

Another option I have is to use some 12.5 CR Woessner pistons, however I'd like to work with what I already have here sitting at home.... Your help is appreciated. Thanks!


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What do you plan on doing that will require the compression to be at 12.7-13:1?
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don't quote me on this but 1mm will take off a point of compression. I think when guys put a 2mm head gasket it reduces the compression by 1 point and i think the stock head gasket is 1.2mm but again don't quote me. but to raise compression that way is not a good idea. your bringing the valves closer to the piston i don't think it will work the way you want it to. and im pretty sure that anything over 12.5 you should go with race gas.
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You should just use those 12.5 CR Woessner pistons.
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This will be more like an experimental engine... no real reason to do it other than I want to

Also, Inlinepro is able to tune a 12.5 cr engine to run on 93 without problems, as I've seen both in real life and from online research. In fact, there's an user here who has a stroker kit very near 13.0 if my memory serves me correctly running on 93 without issues..

So 1mm looks like so far? I will be claying this engine to be sure of no piston/valve contact.
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I live in a place where fuel quality is not very good. I just don't feel comfortable running more that 12.5 on pump gas. Sure you can pull the timing back a whole bunch, but whats fun about that. But good luck to you I hope you figure something different out.
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JDM AP1 11.7 pistons in a 2.2L should put you right around 12.5
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^^^^Took the words right out of my mouth.
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CrazyPhuD: Wow I didn't even think of that. So no way to make with work with USDM ap1 pistons? I mean, I have everything I need. I'll look into the jdm ap1 pistons as well, thanks ppl
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I think 1mm would take 7 CCs out of the chamber.

I would get a pro engine builder to do the calc, or do the calc yourself to make sure it's right. Don't take my back of the envelope calc as gospel.
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