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Old 12-06-2012, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by s2kt3
yes I cut away whatever was needed to fit the motor, even the cross member is gone.....

this is a tried tested and true method of doing this swap. MANY before me have done it.

the chassis is now ready to accept the V8 engine and trans.

-Lee
Curious, how much does this affect the overall feel of the car in terms of the heavier engine in the front + less bracing ?
Old 12-06-2012, 02:03 PM
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Everything that you've hacked out is structural. This car in a collision would fold in half even at much lower speeds.

The chassis is going to twist excessive amounts under cornering and dynamic loads making it unsafe.

How can nobody else see this?





Everything highlighted should never be removed, its the backbone of the car. You've essentially destroyed the frame. You can say its common to do with this type of swap, but it doesnt mean its the RIGHT thing to do. But you should know this being a "Class A Mechanic"
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Originally Posted by cuci591
Haters gonna hate

yup he had to ruin my thread too .... I cant believe this guy....
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Originally Posted by kryptonite
Originally Posted by s2kt3' timestamp='1354833387' post='22194510

yes I cut away whatever was needed to fit the motor, even the cross member is gone.....

this is a tried tested and true method of doing this swap. MANY before me have done it.

the chassis is now ready to accept the V8 engine and trans.

-Lee
Curious, how much does this affect the overall feel of the car in terms of the heavier engine in the front + less bracing ?
actually since the engine is solid mounted using a motor plate it acts as the front cross member would act for structure, from everything everyone is telling me no one has twisted a chassis, there are a BUNCH of v8 s2ks out there with this done the EXACT same way, with no ill affects.

this is what mine looks like ... roughly

the area shown is what is deleted. minor.



and the motor plate will help as well... i believe this is why no one has had problems...


Weight, the difference in weight is minimal, the s2000 drivetrain with a complete turbo set up, is within pounds of the v8 drive train. and its mounted in almost the exact same position.

there was even 1 guy that got the same weight distribution as stock and weighing in just less then stock. lets remember I deleted A/C completely minus the evap, and pretty much all other non essential parts: cruise, air pump set up, cross member, battery in trunk, etc...

-Lee
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Looking good! And the motor plates are solid for this. The ls1 is an aluminum block so the weight gain in minimal. Right at 100 lbs as according to what I remember seeing the weight difference. Also the ls1 is a well balanced motor so even with solid motor mounts you won't feel the shaking of the motor in the car. I know in my GTO when under the hood the motor vibrates next to nothing! Keeping it going bro!
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Oh and the best part is with about 2800 bucks cheaper then a used turbo or super charger kit. You can have easily over 500 on this motor and drive the hell out of it. The LS2 in my goat has right at 480and I drive it 500 miles like its nothing!
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Originally Posted by icemans2k02
Oh and the best part is with about 2800 bucks cheaper then a used turbo or super charger kit. You can have easily over 500 on this motor and drive the hell out of it. The LS2 in my goat has right at 480and I drive it 500 miles like its nothing!

wow 480.... damn !!!! Im good with 400/ 400 haha

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Be easily attainable with that goal. Most motors dyno around the 325 whp range since they always have custom exhaust/ mid pipes. Once they get the header section down you will be able to do this swap and throw a cam in and be where you want!
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Originally Posted by s2kt3
Originally Posted by kryptonite' timestamp='1354834800' post='22194561
[quote name='s2kt3' timestamp='1354833387' post='22194510']

yes I cut away whatever was needed to fit the motor, even the cross member is gone.....

this is a tried tested and true method of doing this swap. MANY before me have done it.

the chassis is now ready to accept the V8 engine and trans.

-Lee
Curious, how much does this affect the overall feel of the car in terms of the heavier engine in the front + less bracing ?
actually since the engine is solid mounted using a motor plate it acts as the front cross member would act for structure, from everything everyone is telling me no one has twisted a chassis, there are a BUNCH of v8 s2ks out there with this done the EXACT same way, with no ill affects.

this is what mine looks like ... roughly

the area shown is what is deleted. minor.



and the motor plate will help as well... i believe this is why no one has had problems...


Weight, the difference in weight is minimal, the s2000 drivetrain with a complete turbo set up, is within pounds of the v8 drive train. and its mounted in almost the exact same position.

there was even 1 guy that got the same weight distribution as stock and weighing in just less then stock. lets remember I deleted A/C completely minus the evap, and pretty much all other non essential parts: cruise, air pump set up, cross member, battery in trunk, etc...

-Lee
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Coul an aftermarket x brace of sorts and a strut bar at the top replicate the chassis rigidity that was lost?


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