integlspwr

I am currently running Tein RS max lowered all the way around and needed some help with my alignment specs.

My currently setup is.

10k/10k front and rear springs
17x9 +38 Rims
255.40.17

Currently i like my car to be setup for oversteer but don't know what alignment setup everyone is running in addition to the non-staggered / oversteer setup.

Post them up!

Thanks!

viper_driver

When I went from USA to UK alignment specs it added a lot more oversteer...and a lot more rear tire life.

I still have staggered setup though, sorry. This probably doesn't help, but here's my specs:

front:
caster: 6 deg 45"
camber: -1 deg
toe: 0

rear:
camber: -2 deg
toe per side: 0.2 deg
total toe: 0.4 deg

Jason

ahrmike

Viper, are you serious? You sure you dont mean the other way?
The UK spec is VERY aggressive - it wore out my rear tires in <6K miles... it also made the car much less twitchy and over-steer happy.

When I actually talked to the alignment guy and gave him the UK spec, he was like 'are you sure you want this much rear toe?' 'the tire will wear out like crazy..' and it did.

I went to a custom-ish alignment spec this time: UK spec everything, but much less toe.

AlexS2200

front:
caster: 6.0 deg
camber: -2.5 to -3 deg
toe: 0

rear:
camber: -3 to -4 deg
toe: 3/16 in Toe in Total

ahrmike

integ, im not familiar with nonstag setup eithier, but Im sure by doing that you already have increased oversteer in your car. If you want more, you should get the toe in near zero? I gotta say tho, with more rear toe in, its easier to get the car back in control after you get it sideways.

integlspwr

Those alignment specs look good soo far.. I remember reid was saying 0 toe in the front all ways.

[QUOTE=ikeyballz,Jul 13 2009, 12:38 PM]integ, im not familiar with nonstag setup eithier, but Im sure by doing that you already have increased oversteer in your car.

AlexS2200

Not always 0 toe in front. Majority It depends on how your car is behaving. There has been some occasions people have toe out the front a little. It all depends on what track, what street, what turn etc. In the end its all a science w/ theory only to back it.

viper_driver

UK spec has LESS rear toe in than us. Something about US not being able to handle the oversteer nature of the UK spec. We tend to sue too much over everything....actually I buy that explanation.

Anyway, I was getting <10K from my rear tires with US spec over 3 tire changes. Swapped to UK spec and my rears have over 20K now and still look good. Same exact tires and no other changes but the alignment. Tires are Falken Azenis ST115s.

In my 'own car tested' opinion, UK spec is more oversteer happy, and wears tires less. In the words of a smarter man than I, "camber doesn't wear tires, toe does."

I LOVE the UK spec. I wouldn't go back for anything.

Ballz, I think you do want a little rear toe in. I wouldn't go to zero, but I'm not a professional either. In my case, it's a little bit of a toss up over camber and toe. My car is lowered so I don't have all the adjustment both directions....I'm sure everyone else lowered has the same issues.

Jason

integlspwr

any more suggestions.

AlexS2200

I suggest you go out and get an alignment and test multiple specs. There is no universal spec for running non-staggered. Driver preference and driving style have a lot to do with how a car is setup to drive. Some like more camber, some like less and so on and so forth. I think you should hop in the car and find out what works for you.