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Old 08-30-2024, 07:16 AM
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Digit 10 in the VIN is the model year. Not to be confused with the year of manufacture or the tax year (in the UK).

10. Y, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 (model year, y=2000, 1=2001, etc)

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Old 08-30-2024, 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by engifineer
yeah the mileage is stored in the cluster on many/most cars.

Look at the sticker in the door jamb. It will show the manufacture date. Year models for Honda I believe start on June 1 of the previous year. So, mfg date of June of 2002 would be a 2003 model for example. That should tell you if it is an AP1 or AP2 quickly, but ... engine used does change for some countries so need to know that as well. But in North America, unless it was imported a 2000 - 2003 will be an AP1 and should have an F20c that revs to 9k, lower rev limit and an F22 past that. AGain .. unless they have swapped stuff around.

No, if running a test pipe or something that sets the secondary O2 or cat code, you run spacers (usually made from two spark plug antifoulers) if the test pipe does not have a built in one. There is a never a proper fix that includes removing or disabling the CEL because then you will never see any worse issues.

You mention the Oxygen sensor code... what is the specific code number? There are a few codes relating to the O2 sensor and there is more than one O2 sensor. And some do not mean the O2 sensor is bad, but rather the ECU does not like what the sensor is reading. Code number (P0420, etc) is what is needed here to help diagnose.
I can't remember what it was it started with p14 if I recall correctly... It did not seem serious .... There is a cheap after market exhaust but the cat is super rusty and still there...

The car is an US import and now in Abu Dhabi with me ... It's an 07 model, with a carfax....

I will get you the code tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by Lov2bugu
I can't remember what it was it started with p14 if I recall correctly... It did not seem serious .... There is a cheap after market exhaust but the cat is super rusty and still there...

The car is an US import and now in Abu Dhabi with me ... It's an 07 model, with a carfax....

I will get you the code tomorrow.
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Ok, the 07 US model came with the 2.2L engine in it. There should be a stamp on the engine block which reads F22C1.
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P14 is either an air pump or evap issue depending on the last two digits. Neither of those is due to the exhaust or O2 sensor. If it WAS an O2 sensor code it depends on which one. The secondary O2 just monitors if the cat is there and working and affects nothing else. The primary O2 is used to control fuel trim and will cause running issues if it is off.

In any case , will need to figure out what is up with the indicator and correct whatever is causing those codes so you can clear them and know if anything else pops up in the future. Some codes can be pretty serious (like a major misfire, stuck lean condition, etc) and you want to know when the light comes on.

A quick picture of the gauge cluster will tell us for sure if it has an AP1 or AP2 cluster in it. They look quite a bit different
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Shouldn't be an air pump on an AP2 engine.

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Originally Posted by Chuck S
Shouldn't be an air pump on an AP2 engine.

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Yep.

1410 through 1416 are air pump related, 1456 and 1457 are evap. There are also codes for both below 1000 that are generic, above 1000 are mfgr specific codes.
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I love how active this community is.... Thank you, just so I don't steer you guys in the wrong direction, I'll get you the codes ....

​​​​​Thank you again, few hours from now.
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Error was 0141, cleared, never came back
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The current errors are:

Error p2127
Error P2122

I don't see any hesitation, except a clutch slip which I will buy a new kit.
I suspect the flywheel is not light enough so I might go for 11pounds instead of 24

I am just torn on what to do with the bushings, replace with spoon mugen or buy new control arms.... I am refreshing the car.

So.... I am loving it so far, I will check the engine serial later when I get a chance...
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I fixed the codes above the only one left is p0141

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